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Registered as 1985 Sylvia
Banana - 12/5/17 at 11:57 AM

Went to look at another Mk the other day, and its registered as a 'Sylivia, from 1985'.

Its on a Q plate, so i assume he had it IVA'd?

How can it still have the wrong log book if its been assigned a Q plate etc?

[Edited on 12/5/17 by Banana]


pekwah1 - 12/5/17 at 12:20 PM

Having a Q plate just means it has been made up of random major components which have not been proven to be new.
Does the log book have the same Q registration on it?

If it's a different reg, it's obviously not the same car so steer clear.

If the reg is correct, then fine, i'd be looking at when the car was first registered on the road.

IVA took effect from 29 April 2009, was SVA before this, and if you go back far enough you wouldn't even need SVA.

The make and model on the V5 would have been taken from whatever the owner registered at the time, and i doubt DVLA would have questioned this even if we know that it was wrong.

Hope this helps a bit
Andy


obfripper - 12/5/17 at 12:23 PM

Someones ringed a sylva leader or star, there's no chance that is a legit mk.

Dave


Banana - 12/5/17 at 12:42 PM

Yep Q reg is on log book as I found it via Not check website.
But the description is Sylvia first registered 1985.

As this is an mk it must have been recent enough to need an IVA.

Just trying to establish If it's sloppy paper work or outright deception and no IVA has been done.
As the car looks nice.


stevebubs - 12/5/17 at 12:46 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Banana
Yep Q reg is on log book as I found it via Not check website.
But the description is Sylvia first registered 1985.

As this is an mk it must have been recent enough to need an IVA.

Just trying to establish If it's sloppy paper work or outright deception and no IVA has been done.
As the car looks nice.


If it's showing as a Sylva then I suspect the deception as a Sylva is highly unlikely to have been the donor car.

I find it strange that people put the time, effort and money into a nice build and then take a stupid shortcut that could see it crushed...


adampage - 12/5/17 at 01:26 PM

I can't see sloppy paperwork could say an MK Indy from late 90s on, is described as a Sylvia 1985.
It must be deliberate, and as the other comment said, most likely is it's an old Sylva bought as an old nail, and they stick the v5 on a newer MK Indy.

Steer clear.......

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Benzine - 12/5/17 at 01:31 PM


Banana - 12/5/17 at 02:05 PM

Haha cheers De niro.

Yeah I'm steering clear.. shame as it looks very well built. As already said, it's amazing that people cut corners after going to the trouble of building.


Nickp - 12/5/17 at 02:11 PM

Why is it nearly always MKs? Hmmm......


SJ - 12/5/17 at 02:52 PM

quote:

Why is it nearly always MKs? Hmmm......



What's your theory? Are MKs any harder to IVA than anything else?


Nickp - 12/5/17 at 03:04 PM

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Originally posted by SJ
quote:

Why is it nearly always MKs? Hmmm......



What's your theory? Are MKs any harder to IVA than anything else?


No, but maybe the builders took advice from MK (as it was then) on the best / cheapest way to get on the road?


timdave25 - 12/5/17 at 03:05 PM

Sometimes an idea in a club or group of builders which catches on. Sad really as they think they know better and don't seek formal advice.


myke pocock - 12/5/17 at 05:34 PM

Just being fussy here BUT does it say Sylva or SylVia on the log book?


Banana - 12/5/17 at 10:05 PM

Its Sylvia. Sylva did cross my mind when i first read it, although it wouldn't make it much better.


big_wasa - 13/5/17 at 05:37 AM

Up until a year or so ago you could pick up an abandoned leader or star for less than an Iva.


peter030371 - 13/5/17 at 08:06 AM

What engine has it got?


MikeRJ - 13/5/17 at 08:48 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Banana
Its Sylvia. Sylva did cross my mind when i first read it, although it wouldn't make it much better.


Sylvia is not a kit car manufacturer I have ever heard of, but it's entirely possible that the original car (i.e. that the plates belong to) was a Sylva that was registered with a misspelt name.


Ugg10 - 13/5/17 at 09:04 AM

There is a Nissan Silvia (JDM 200sx) so could have been a donor but very unlikely unless it has a Nissan engine, box or diff. Again dodgy spelling mistake.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Silvia

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[Edited on 13/5/17 by Ugg10]


peter030371 - 13/5/17 at 09:16 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Ugg10
There is a Nissan Silvia (JDM 200sx) so could have been a donor but very unlikely unless it has a Nissan engine, box or diff. Again dodgy spelling mistake.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Silvia

[Edited on 13/5/17 by Ugg10]

[Edited on 13/5/17 by Ugg10]


That's what I was thinking and why I asked what engine it had


Ugg10 - 13/5/17 at 09:19 AM

Not sure why more kits weren't built with that engine, 2.0l turbo 200-250hp, ok it is iron block but pretty much a budget cosworth and you get a free 6 speed box with later versions.