RichardK
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| posted on 24/3/11 at 08:27 PM |
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Is the bruise trying to kill me or save me??
Well it went like this....
Driving back from work, went the back way about 20 miles home, having a bit of fun with vrs octy, about 12 miles in at a place called Linton on Ouse
front right wheel went down a great big fecking hole, let the octy go and pulled over to check the wheel as it did go bang, wheel looked ok, rim etc
so carried on thought I'd got away with.
Carried on with my usual reckless driving style until I got home, the missues had put her shoebox on the drive so I had to put mine on the road while
I shifted hers onto the road so I could put mine in the garage.
Anyway walking back to the bruise I thought the front wheel looked a bit pi55ed so had a closer look and the wishbone was hanging off, was just held
on by about 5mm worth of plate, thought I'd better push it into the garage rather than risk the extra weight of my slightly build frame, whilst
pushing it in the wishbone completely snapped 
If I make some more bones they will be 5mm and not 3mm  Although I am looking at buying some more to get her back on the road quickly.
So should the bruise have been able to handle that or is she trying to kill me??
Love Rich xx
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[Edited on 24/3/11 by RichardK]
Gallery updated 11/01/2011
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jacko
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| posted on 24/3/11 at 08:38 PM |
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In my opinion 3mm plate is / was a bit thin I think its the weight of that new engine thats done it 
Should have kept the Pinto
Graham
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karlak
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| posted on 24/3/11 at 08:39 PM |
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kin ell,,, think you should buy another lottery ticket this weekend 
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HowardB
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| posted on 24/3/11 at 08:39 PM |
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already posted a comment on the loo-roll thread, is it clear that it was a one off impact that killed that, it looks to me like there has been some
fatigue damage,.. any further pictures looking at the damaged edge?
Howard
Fisher Fury was 2000 Zetec - now a 1600 (it Lives again and goes zoom)
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Strontium Dog
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| posted on 24/3/11 at 08:44 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by HowardB
already posted a comment on the loo-roll thread, is it clear that it was a one off impact that killed that, it looks to me like there has been some
fatigue damage,.. any further pictures looking at the damaged edge?
Probably the impact caused a stress fracture and the drive home finished it off. Remember he did stop and check it at the time and didn't notice
the wheel was not aligned then!
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RichardK
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| posted on 24/3/11 at 08:46 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Strontium Dog
Probably the impact caused a stress fracture and the drive home finished it off. Remember he did stop and check it at the time and didn't notice
the wheel was not aligned then!
Thats my thinking too...
Would have had the skoda too
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HowardB
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| posted on 24/3/11 at 08:49 PM |
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would be good to see more, if there was already a fatigue crack, then the impact may have assisted the crack to grow, finished off by the last few
yards,....
Either way there needs to be some thoughts about re-design, and knowing the failure mode would be helpful
:-)
Howard
Fisher Fury was 2000 Zetec - now a 1600 (it Lives again and goes zoom)
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lotusmadandy
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| posted on 24/3/11 at 08:50 PM |
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Bloody hell rich, you are a lucky b'stard.That could have
been very nasty indeed.
The bruise is definately looking after you mate.
Andy
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Dangle_kt
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| posted on 24/3/11 at 08:52 PM |
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Ouch!
Glad your safe!
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norfolkluego
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| posted on 24/3/11 at 08:53 PM |
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Surely a single impact wouldn't have caused that, bent it yes
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FASTdan
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| posted on 24/3/11 at 09:11 PM |
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Ouch thats nasty!
I think 3mm is a little on the thin side and likely it has probably fatigued over time, being finished off by the impact.
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stevegough
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| posted on 24/3/11 at 09:12 PM |
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I think its a massive shame.
That you should contemplate actually having let a psudo - warm - glowing hatch - especially a skoda whoop your ass then come on here, confessing and
trying to cover it up by blaming the Bruise for having a faulty part.
HANG
YOUR
HEAD
IN SHAMMMMMEE!
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RichardK
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| posted on 24/3/11 at 09:18 PM |
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It was the petrol 200bhp model, does that not count for anything. defo would have had it... in my head anyway...
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ashg
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| posted on 24/3/11 at 09:29 PM |
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the plates on the roadster are 5mm looking at that i would have said that even 5mm may have only just survived.
Anything With Tits or Wheels Will cost you MONEY!!
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Daddylonglegs
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| posted on 24/3/11 at 09:33 PM |
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Glad it didn't fail on the move Rich could've been a bit 'awkward'
Personally I think it just goes to show that, like crime, hooliganism doesn't pay
It looks like the Midget is winning at the moment......
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fazerruss
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| posted on 24/3/11 at 09:42 PM |
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Never mind Richards close encounter.....
HE LET ME HAVE A DRIVE IN IT TODAY!!!!
If you dont like me Rich then just say so
"if assholes could fly this place would be an airport"
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RichardK
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| posted on 24/3/11 at 09:50 PM |
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Ha Ha
Thats a good point, you could have weakened it!!!!! Didn't think of that.... See.... would have had that skoda if you hadn't broke my car
Rich
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 24/3/11 at 10:59 PM |
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Bruise?
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ashg
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| posted on 25/3/11 at 12:32 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
Bruise?
name of his car
Anything With Tits or Wheels Will cost you MONEY!!
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Bare
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| posted on 25/3/11 at 02:28 AM |
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Shame.. but at least you survived unscathed.
IMO the "champoin' a arm design has Always looked the part of a DIY bodge by someone with surprisingly limited knowledge. Frankly
I'm surprised this 'breakage' isn't Epidemic.
Time to do a wee bit of reading on what constitutes a 'clever" arm shock mount setup.
Staniforth and Costin make a decent read on the subject..
Clearly the Champion 'design' isn't worth building IMO..
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TheGecko
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| posted on 25/3/11 at 02:58 AM |
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I'd be interested to see a clearer photo of the whole damaged area once you get it apart but, from looking at the wishbone photos in your
gallery, the problem is pretty obvious (in hindsight).
This pic of the finished wishbone:
and this one of the jig (which I assume shows the shape of the mounting plate):
indicate that the balljoint is cantelivered out past the end of the tubes so the plate itself is being asked to act as a spring, flexing through the
inside edge of the large hole. Failure was probably inevitable  the pothole just brought it on more quickly.
I assume this is the Haynes wishbone design, using a Maxi joint?
As an aside, having been a passenger in a Locost that lost the nut on the bottom drivers side balljoint, which then pulled out of the upright in a
80km/hr corner the loss of control was an awful lot less than you would have expected. I didn't realise it was that bad until the driver
pulled over (without incident) and we got out and looked. Admittedly, it was the inside wheel in that corner but, still!!
Anway, glad to hear you survived to tell the tale.
Dominic
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HowardB
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| posted on 25/3/11 at 06:44 AM |
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I agree with ^ the design would appear to be in cantilever in the wrong place. Perhaps your misfortune will save someone a from a real catastrophe. In
fact the damper end mounting looks like another likely candidate for problems as it appears to be mounted onto the "thin" plate rather
than the box section.
If it were me I would be looking for a new design, and replacing both sides pdq.
At least Bruise waited until you were home to demonstrate the folly of the design.
:-)
Howard
Fisher Fury was 2000 Zetec - now a 1600 (it Lives again and goes zoom)
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zilspeed
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| posted on 25/3/11 at 08:24 AM |
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This design isn't where I would personally want to end up if desigining a wishbone.
An unsupported flat plat with no folds in it.
Not cool.
Why you wouldn't have either a screw in balljoint or a rod end bearing in a fully supported housing is beyond me.
If those are professionally made wishbones, I trust the vendor has all their insurances paid up.
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owelly
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| posted on 25/3/11 at 09:20 AM |
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What the hell are you lot twisting-on about? Bit of duct tape and a couple of cable-ties and it's good to go. Havn't you noticed, the sun
is shining??
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RichardK
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| posted on 25/3/11 at 09:22 AM |
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I made them as per the Ron Champion book design, however I quite like the mk hoop design. On reflection 5mm > would have been a better choice of
material.
Must be plenty knocking around if thats the case and I've not heard of mass failures but I certainly would do them diffently if I was going to
make them again.
So if you planning to make book bones maybe re think the material
Cheers
Rich
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