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equinoxms

posted on 27/7/12 at 02:04 PM Reply With Quote
Equinox Mirage build your own LMP sports racing car

I made this post in another thread, but, thought i ought to make it under it's own thread. I'll start adding further details as and when to this thread.

We've made a hint of this in a press release to Total Kit Car, but, as there are clearly some interested parties and the concept fits well with this forum here is what we are currently planning.

Equinox Products are currently designing and building a new sports racing car that can be used on road and track, using a space frame chassis, modern sports prototype bodywork and commonly avaialble (cheap) high performance donor vehicle. We are going to encourage people to build this car themselves in a similar way to the original Locost concept.

We are going to be releasing the chassis drawings for the new car, provisionally named the Equinox Mirage, so people can build the chassis etc themselves. We have a racing club prepared in principle to put on a single make championship for the new car. The projected cost for this type of build as a race car is £6,500.

We are proposing to release the details of the chassis etc in an article, and then the build of a car in a further article(s) published in a build diary on this forum, as well as a downloadable e-book from our website, or if they are keen one of the industry magazines.

Overall what we are hoping to achieve is a single make racing series like the Locost championship. Obviously it's very early days at the moment and nothing is cast in stone, but we've had some good feedback from a racing club on the basic principle.

Although I keep refering to the racing side of things, the car is going to be suitable for use as a road car, it's just the racing side seems to be coming together nicely with the overall concept at present.





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bartonp

posted on 27/7/12 at 02:19 PM Reply With Quote
£250 - £6500 ... guess that's inflation!
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big_wasa

posted on 27/7/12 at 02:23 PM Reply With Quote
A new project

[Edited on 27/7/12 by big_wasa]

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posted on 27/7/12 at 03:53 PM Reply With Quote
Photos?

Size of car?

Engine Choice?





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AndyW

posted on 27/7/12 at 04:26 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by big_wasa
A new project

[Edited on 27/7/12 by big_wasa]



Thought you might like that!! Sort the locost first!!

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equinoxms

posted on 27/7/12 at 04:50 PM Reply With Quote
Details all in good time......

So impatient, what goods a project if it's all laid out with no suspense?

<<<<<<Photo
Size - 2 seater mid engined LMP


[Edited on 27/7/12 by equinoxms]





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Slimy38

posted on 27/7/12 at 04:50 PM Reply With Quote
This?

http://www.totalkitcar.com/2012/07/19/well-balanced/

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designer

posted on 27/7/12 at 05:38 PM Reply With Quote
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Details all in good time......



You have announced it too early then!

You are announcing to a small band of DIYers, why do it now if you can't give more info?

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posted on 27/7/12 at 05:45 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by designer
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Details all in good time......



You have announced it too early then!

You are announcing to a small band of DIYers, why do it now if you can't give more info?


Probably to gauge some sort of level of interest. No point in going full out on a new concept if no ones interested.





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40inches

posted on 27/7/12 at 07:37 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Ben_Copeland
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Originally posted by designer
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Details all in good time......



You have announced it too early then!

You are announcing to a small band of DIYers, why do it now if you can't give more info?


Probably to gauge some sort of level of interest. No point in going full out on a new concept if no ones interested.

Then again how can anyone express an interest if they know nothing about it? It's probably like a Spire or Sabre, but who knows?






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zilspeed

posted on 27/7/12 at 07:45 PM Reply With Quote
Love to know how this will be made to work regarding transaxle etc.

Other than the Audi / VW one (correct config, very heavy) you're into Hewlands which aren't exactly road car boxes.

It would be a shame to saddle it with a transverse engine just for expediency.

Shall follow with interest.

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ceebmoj

posted on 27/7/12 at 09:29 PM Reply With Quote
Subaru engine and box?
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zilspeed

posted on 27/7/12 at 09:58 PM Reply With Quote
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Subaru engine and box?


Point taken.
It does dictate the chassis at the back though as it's fundamentally different to the "road going Sports 2000" that the website mentions as inspiration.

I'm just curious, that's all.

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Mr C

posted on 27/7/12 at 10:44 PM Reply With Quote
Defo interested if its scooby based, got a spare engine waiting for a car, was thinking about throwing it in a Spire





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ceebmoj

posted on 27/7/12 at 11:01 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by zilspeed
It does dictate the chassis at the back though as it's fundamentally different to the "road going Sports 2000" that the website mentions as inspiration.


Do you have a link to the web-sight?

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zilspeed

posted on 28/7/12 at 02:42 PM Reply With Quote
From Total Kit Car

http://www.totalkitcar.com/2012/07/19/well-balanced/

"Buoyed by the reaction to their range of Haynes Roadster components, Equinox has begun the design study for a new car loosely based as a Sports 2000 racecar for the road. The chassis will be available as build it yourself plans as well as turnkey and it willí make use of a freely available, cheap and high performance donor that will have the whole industry asking why they didnít think of that firstí, according to the press release."

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Not Anumber

posted on 28/7/12 at 04:56 PM Reply With Quote
It will be especially interesting if they make an IVA achievable/ road legal version. With it's use of readilly available fwd running gear and realistic projected build costs it has potential to be the next big thing if it delivers.
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posted on 29/7/12 at 09:02 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by zilspeed
Love to know how this will be made to work regarding transaxle etc.

Other than the Audi / VW one (correct config, very heavy) you're into Hewlands which aren't exactly road car boxes.

It would be a shame to saddle it with a transverse engine just for expediency.

Shall follow with interest.


Lotus Elise and Noble are benchmark handling mid engine cars both of which use ex-FWD saloon car transverse pacakges. In the case of the Elise, the super light K series engine and road box is same as say a zetec and hewland





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ceebmoj

posted on 29/7/12 at 10:43 AM Reply With Quote
So is there any real information on the car?
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procomp

posted on 30/7/12 at 06:42 PM Reply With Quote
Hi

Having seen a set of regulations for this "one make championship" What i can say is that it is based around the Audi 1.8 turbo and trans axle setup. So not exactly going to be brilliant in performance.
However the interesting bit is that the guy behind it all is as he put in his Email. An ex F1 designer with vast experience in the world of locost and ties to Rally design.

Step forward Mr Darren George. That's assuming that 2 + 2 = 4

Cheers Matt






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equinoxms

posted on 30/7/12 at 08:20 PM Reply With Quote
The basis of the design was actually begun several years ago with a couple of contract ex F1/Sportscar designers for a Sports 2000 project. It's a wholly Equinox project, and as any one in the correct racing circles know we have undertaken these sort of projects ourselves on several occasions, and will know well what design sources we have contact with.

We can't release any further details for it at the moment as we are in discussions with a magazine about releasing the designs via them and they are requiring that they are released potentially exclusively through their pages.

We'll update information on here weekly as the situation with the magazine becomes clearer.





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Mr C

posted on 30/7/12 at 09:07 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by procomp
Hi

Having seen a set of regulations for this "one make championship" What i can say is that it is based around the Audi 1.8 turbo and trans axle setup. So not exactly going to be brilliant in performance.
However the interesting bit is that the guy behind it all is as he put in his Email. An ex F1 designer with vast experience in the world of locost and ties to Rally design.

Step forward Mr Darren George. That's assuming that 2 + 2 = 4

Cheers Matt



Lets not speculate here chap and chapesses, although I appreciate the tell tale signs are worrying, I'm sure that Equinox's proximity to Canterbury, procomp's description of a spire gtr and Mr George propensity to rip off other peoples products (tornado / GTForte) are nothing more than coincidence. I'm sure that equinox have the integrity to do this without the expert assistance of Mr George.





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Wadders

posted on 30/7/12 at 09:08 PM Reply With Quote
No axe to grind at all here, but the reply to procomp's post reads like the answer a politician would give when trying to
avoid a specific question......very vauge.

So to clarify, ......

Does Darren George, formally of GTS tuning have any involvement or association with Equinox Products or this particular project?

A simple yes or no answer would be appropriate.

Al


Originally posted by equinoxms
The basis of the design was actually begun several years ago with a couple of contract ex F1/Sportscar designers for a Sports 2000 project. It's a wholly Equinox project, and as any one in the correct racing circles know we have undertaken these sort of projects ourselves on several occasions, and will know well what design sources we have contact with.

We can't release any further details for it at the moment as we are in discussions with a magazine about releasing the designs via them and they are requiring that they are released potentially exclusively through their pages.

We'll update information on here weekly as the situation with the magazine becomes clearer.

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gallons perminute

posted on 30/7/12 at 09:53 PM Reply With Quote
Is this not the Ray sports 2000 project that never got up to speed ?
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zilspeed

posted on 30/7/12 at 09:59 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by equinoxms
The basis of the design was actually begun several years ago with a couple of contract ex F1/Sportscar designers for a Sports 2000 project. It's a wholly Equinox project, and as any one in the correct racing circles know we have undertaken these sort of projects ourselves on several occasions, and will know well what design sources we have contact with.

We can't release any further details for it at the moment as we are in discussions with a magazine about releasing the designs via them and they are requiring that they are released potentially exclusively through their pages.

We'll update information on here weekly as the situation with the magazine becomes clearer.


Thanks for your additional info.

I'm sure all interested parties will appreciate this pic of Damian Griffin's Ray Sports 2000 which is clearly the car in the pic.

Hope the project works out for you.



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