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posted on 13/10/14 at 02:58 PM Reply With Quote
Audi A4 based kit

Afternoon all,

I was pondering different kit designs and thinking about the mid engine and transaxle layout.

Most of the transaxle options seem to be very pricey, either a specialised racing transaxle for $$$ or from a 'fancy' road car (Porsche etc).

Then I wondered about front engined, front wheel drive cars with fore-aft engines. And I came up with a few Audis, like the A4.

Which all leads to the question...

Are there any kits based around the A4.
Or is anyone building anything like that?





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Benzine

posted on 13/10/14 at 03:09 PM Reply With Quote
That would be pretty decent, perv and derv options
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coozer

posted on 13/10/14 at 03:20 PM Reply With Quote
I've been wondering that myself, I think an Audi V8 and trans axle would be a mint way to go for a mid engine aka F1 type car...





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mcerd1

posted on 13/10/14 at 03:28 PM Reply With Quote
its been done a few times, but I can't think of any kits that use it as standard


this build has been around for a while now:
http://www.motorgeek.com/viewtopic.php?t=9648





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posted on 13/10/14 at 04:10 PM Reply With Quote
Dodgy link that...





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posted on 13/10/14 at 04:10 PM Reply With Quote
There was the exoskeleton car, forget the name but that used Audi turbo/transaxle.






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posted on 13/10/14 at 04:16 PM Reply With Quote
Wasn't there a Ford RS200 replica that used the Audi 1.8T and Transaxle.

I have often considered building a 1970's F1 homage using a growly Audi V6/V8 and Transaxle





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posted on 13/10/14 at 04:25 PM Reply With Quote
New tiger era30 design. Uses Audi 80 or 90 transaxle setup. Not sure on the model.
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posted on 13/10/14 at 04:33 PM Reply With Quote
Funnily enough I seriously thought about the Audi setup when I was designing the Furore, at the time (circa 8 years ago) the Audi transaxles were a bit like hen's teeth & very expensive, would imagine they could be picked up cheap enough nowadays tho'. I would imagine the engine electronics could be a bit of a game, but presumably you could use something like Omex to dispose of most of it?





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posted on 13/10/14 at 04:33 PM Reply With Quote
Gt40 clones as well.
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posted on 13/10/14 at 04:35 PM Reply With Quote
Edge devil a single seater a few years back





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posted on 13/10/14 at 04:42 PM Reply With Quote
The Edge used the old Audi 100 5 pot lump & associated transaxle, old fashioned heavy & (compared to modern engines) underpowered must have weighed more than the rest of the vehicle! However it was a least simple (bit like a Pinto in that respect)





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posted on 13/10/14 at 06:16 PM Reply With Quote
Subaru's are ofter rear mounted in VW's

I like the idea of a H6 Subaru boxer engine rear mounted.
Wife's got one in an outback. 245bhp as standard.

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posted on 13/10/14 at 09:34 PM Reply With Quote
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posted on 14/10/14 at 12:16 AM Reply With Quote
My Spire GTR has a 1.8T and transaxle out of a B5 Passat (same platform as A4). I paid to have the immobiliser removed from the stock ECU and a remap to allegedly 190bhp. I got the engine running last weekend It only needs half a dozen wires spliced into the OEM loom to get it running, the trick was working out which ones!





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posted on 14/10/14 at 10:35 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by russbost
The Edge used the old Audi 100 5 pot lump & associated transaxle, old fashioned heavy & (compared to modern engines) underpowered must have weighed more than the rest of the vehicle! However it was a least simple (bit like a Pinto in that respect)


I doubt that the engine weighed more than the chassis Russ. I remember seeing "The Edge" at a show a few years ago. The chassis was HUGE and looked like a box girder bridge.

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olberj

posted on 23/2/15 at 07:57 PM Reply With Quote
An idea close to my heart.

We've mid mounted Audi v8s in Mr2s already and proved the later ob1 gearboxes with the diff at the very front mate up too.

I'd love a mid engine space frame to fit it to. I did think of using a vx220 as a base but they're going up in price.

I basically want a v8 powered Porsche 904/8 on the cheap

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Ugg10

posted on 23/2/15 at 09:13 PM Reply With Quote
Isn't the big issue with using the audi transaxle and engine in a front wheel drive car that the engine hangs out in front of the front axle, ok is a rear wheel drive mid engine like the spire gt or a big heavy saloon. I guess you could turn it round, turn the transaxle upside down and use it mid engine front wheel drive (similar to ultima or gt40s do with the 911 transaxle).





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posted on 23/2/15 at 09:45 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SPYDER
quote:
Originally posted by russbost
The Edge used the old Audi 100 5 pot lump & associated transaxle, old fashioned heavy & (compared to modern engines) underpowered must have weighed more than the rest of the vehicle! However it was a least simple (bit like a Pinto in that respect)


I doubt that the engine weighed more than the chassis Russ. I remember seeing "The Edge" at a show a few years ago. The chassis was HUGE and looked like a box girder bridge.

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Chassis was light enough, but looked heavy. There was a picture of the company owner lifting it into the air and he wasn't a big guy.
2"x2" 16swg weighs double 1"x1" 16 swg but is 8x stiffer (roughly). Looks chunky, but you need less for the same overall chassis stiffness. It was also a single seater, so rather narrower than a 7.

eta: found it
http://web.archive.org/web/20070212111312/http://www.edgesportscars.com/Chassis.htm

Chassis was 60kg
http://web.archive.org/web/20070216212453/http://www.edgesportscars.com/Chassis%20image.htm


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posted on 23/2/15 at 10:02 PM Reply With Quote
Always thought the edge devil chassis would be a good base for an auto union d type replica.



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posted on 15/3/15 at 10:26 PM Reply With Quote
I'm in the middle of making a one off around the Audi alloy v8 (abz) and an 01E transaxle. Total engine and box cost me 450quid so far including manifolds, halfshafts, ignition and fuel hardware. Quite long but not very porky, but certainly not light.





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