jeffw
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| posted on 2/12/14 at 06:31 AM |
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Toyo R888 are no more....here is the R888R
New Toyo R888R for 2015, to replace the R888.
Press release states...
"Toyo Tire Europe GmbH is giving the new Proxes R888R track tyre its’ world debut at the Essen Motorshow in Germany, which opened today. The
tyre, available during 2015, succeeds the Proxes R888. According to the company, the R888 has been used to win many championships, most recently the
2014 Toyota Sprint Series in the UK. Produced in 32 sizes initially, the new Proxes R888R is said to have a fast warm up time, increased dry grip and
sustained performance over multiple laps and heat cycles. This is achieved using a rayon ‘super-high’ turn up ply on some sizes coupled with steel
side plies to give the new Proxes R888R precise steering response and feedback"
http://www.toyo.co.uk/news/item/id/8675
Looks like it will cope better in heavy rain.
[Edited on 2/12/14 by jeffw]
[Edited on 2/12/14 by jeffw]
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bi22le
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| posted on 2/12/14 at 08:25 AM |
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I just hope the price comes down. Or to be more realistic, does not go through the roof.
Track days ARE the best thing since sliced bread, until I get a supercharger that is!
Please read my ring story:
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/forum/13/viewthread.php?tid=139152&page=1
Me doing a sub 56sec lap around Brands Indy. I need a geo set up! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHksfvIGB3I
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loggyboy
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| posted on 2/12/14 at 09:18 AM |
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Link errors for me.
corrected
http://www.toyo.co.uk/news/item/id/8675
[Edited on 2-12-14 by loggyboy]
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jeffw
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| posted on 2/12/14 at 10:12 AM |
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[Edited on 2/12/14 by jeffw]
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adithorp
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| posted on 2/12/14 at 10:43 AM |
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Looks good but... the tread seems to be asymetrical (inside/outside edges) but ALSO appears to be directional ??? That would mean there had to be
left and right hand patterns ???
I wonder if they're E marked? Yoko A048 are losing their E mark next year (don't meet noise/emmisions limits) and will be marked
"for competition use only" according to some stuff I've read on the RGB drivers forum (who've been told this by Yoko).
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jeffw
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| posted on 2/12/14 at 11:08 AM |
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I did wonder about the left/right thing. It will be interesting to see if they are road-legal, I presume they are hence why they have replaced the
R888 at this point.
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Jenko
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| posted on 2/12/14 at 11:27 AM |
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Do they have to be 'e' marked for the road?. I can see why this would be an issue getting through IVA, but how about MOT's...do they
check for e marking as well as legal tread depth?.
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jeffw
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| posted on 2/12/14 at 11:40 AM |
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If it isn't E marked it will say 'Not for Road Use' or 'Competition Use Only'
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Jenko
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| posted on 2/12/14 at 11:49 AM |
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OK, but is that something that the MOT can pull you up on?. I can't remember seeing them checking writing on the tyres. I suppose that leads on
to what the police would say if they stopped you.....
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loggyboy
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| posted on 2/12/14 at 11:51 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
Looks good but... the tread seems to be asymetrical (inside/outside edges) but ALSO appears to be directional ??? That would mean there had to be
left and right hand patterns ???
The latest Uniroyal rainsport3s are like this, but don't have handed options, they are just treated as Asymmetric. Seemed odd but ive got them
on the wifes car and not noticed any imbalance issues on road, even with some enthusiastic driving.
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keithjardine
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| posted on 2/12/14 at 12:14 PM |
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Does a wear marker signify that it is a road legal tyre?
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 2/12/14 at 12:33 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
Looks good but... the tread seems to be asymetrical (inside/outside edges) but ALSO appears to be directional ??? That would mean there had to be
left and right hand patterns ???
The latest Uniroyal rainsport3s are like this, but don't have handed options, they are just treated as Asymmetric. Seemed odd but ive got them
on the wifes car and not noticed any imbalance issues on road, even with some enthusiastic driving.
Same as the old Vredestein Sessanta. Asymmetric but not directional, even though it looks like it.
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jeffw
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| posted on 2/12/14 at 12:53 PM |
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Actually the asymmetry isn't an issue....mentally turn it over...
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jeffw
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| posted on 2/12/14 at 01:01 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Jenko
OK, but is that something that the MOT can pull you up on?. I can't remember seeing them checking writing on the tyres. I suppose that leads on
to what the police would say if they stopped you.....
Non-E marked tyres will be illegal for road use. So MoT failure, Insurance Issues in the event of an accident, Summons/Points for illegal tyres etc.
It would be no different to using Slicks on the road.
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adithorp
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| posted on 2/12/14 at 01:29 PM |
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yeah there's a few asymetric tread ptterns that appear directional but aren't. Avon zz5 is I think as well as those others have mentioned.
These just looked even more directional though, if that makes sence.
Problem with non-E marked would be, should you have an acciden, tyres are the first thing an insurance assesor looks at. MOT testers would probably
miss it.
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Myke 2463
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| posted on 2/12/14 at 04:11 PM |
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R1R and R888 still available from ( NTDWM )
http://www.oponeo.co.uk/tyre-finder/s=1/summer/t=1/car/p=1/toyo/r=1/195-50-r15
Be Lucky Mike.
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adithorp
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| posted on 2/12/14 at 04:22 PM |
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R1R would be great, but they don't do them in 13" (fingers crossed they do the r888r in 13"
Not supprised 888 is still available as they've only just announced it's succesor. I'd guess even once the new one is released
there'll be old stock being sold of the original for a while.
[Edited on 2/12/14 by adithorp]
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OliilO
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| posted on 2/12/14 at 04:45 PM |
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Are they going to continue making the R1R or is that going to be discontinued and replaced too?
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danny keenan
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| posted on 2/12/14 at 06:36 PM |
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Adi
Il call Toyo tomorrow and get some news on the new tyre.
I will post the info on here with price and sizes
Thanks Danny
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adithorp
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| posted on 2/12/14 at 07:30 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by danny keenan
Adi
Il call Toyo tomorrow and get some news on the new tyre.
I will post the info on here with price and sizes
Thanks Danny
Nice one!
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jeffw
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| posted on 31/12/14 at 07:42 AM |
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So it looks like the R1R and R888 are ceased, to be replaced by the R888R. This has to do with EU label and fuel efficiency, all these 1B tyres are G
(the worse) which are now no longer legal to sell (ie new stock not old stock).
Avon are replacing the CR500 with the ZZS (http://www.avonmotorsport.com/road-legal/performance/zzs) and there are new versions of the ZZR. A number
of Avon tyres are exempt from the regulations as you are only allow to fit them to vehicles registered before 1990 (historical exemption).
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rodgling
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| posted on 31/12/14 at 11:40 AM |
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Sizes are given here:
Looks good for me, 205/225 in 15". And a couple of sizes for people running 13" too. I guess more sizes will come later.
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adithorp
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| posted on 31/12/14 at 05:41 PM |
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Good to see they're still doing the 13's.
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jps
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| posted on 31/12/14 at 07:01 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jeffw
Non-E marked tyres will be illegal for road use.
I'm fairly sure this is not correct. Tyres sold in the UK for road use have to be e-marked but the legal requirement for use is about the
construction, condition etc. E mark is just a convenient way of demonstrating the construction is adequate. There has been much complaint in the road
rally world about recent moves to require that competitors run e-marked tyres on events in Wales...
[Edited on 31/12/14 by jps]
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bi22le
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| posted on 31/12/14 at 07:48 PM |
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And offering a 14". All i need now is for them to not rocket the price.
Track days ARE the best thing since sliced bread, until I get a supercharger that is!
Please read my ring story:
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/forum/13/viewthread.php?tid=139152&page=1
Me doing a sub 56sec lap around Brands Indy. I need a geo set up! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHksfvIGB3I
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