Bleeding brilliant!!
just bought new set of headlights, (driving lights) just to be told not needed in 2012
Dont get me started on the 750MC regs.... They've completely successfully screwed up Bikesports
Could be worse, night event regs changed a few years ago so you could only have 4 forward facing lamps cos of "light pollution" and all the
boys had pods full of HIDs at about £700 a pop all in that they could no longer use.
Plus all the BMW e30s have 4 lamps as STD as they are separate units, but if you had an e36 or any other car with STD covered 1 piece headlamps you
could also run spots.
Regs suck
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Originally posted by eddie99
Dont get me started on the 750MC regs.... They've completely successfully screwed up Bikesports
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Originally posted by MK9R
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Originally posted by eddie99
Dont get me started on the 750MC regs.... They've completely successfully screwed up Bikesports
What's happened then?
What's the reason for that then?
No Idea, im hoping to get an answer, And some other silly rules with engines, such as there is no room for a 1ltr tuned engine but you can do whatever
you want with a busa... Meaning no room for a certain radical along the lines...
Oh and only 5 weekends with 10 races, 4 races at donny! Cant complain that donny isnt a great track however to have 40% of your championship at one
place seems a bit much!
As far as Locost are concerned, I think its a great improvement to the calendar. To have to travel from where I am is bad enough, but to do it to
say, Cadwell, for one race is a mission. I love the double header race weekends. Means I may be able to fit in some sprints and autotests in
between.
As for regs for Locost, allowing removal of all front lights is a good thing in my opinion. The other minor changes I need to look into more
closely.
What I would like to see is the TV coverage back. I note from the minutes of committee as printed in the Bulletin that race fixtures were set taking
into account the results of the driver survey, so be interesting to see what the entry fees will be and if they do include extra cost to cover the TV
company, which was also questioned in the same survey.
Hi
The removal of the front lights from the Locosts has been talked about for the last 3-4 years. However don't get rid off them Ernie you may want
to quickly refit them at some point such as a wet race meeting. That's why it's an option to remove them. Will however save many people
having to replace them every other race due to stone damage.
Cheers Matt
I presume its not an MSA requirement to run lights on the front in the rain, so if you arent fussed about running them, you could remove them permanently?
Hi
The MSA regulation that is referred to in the regs allows us to run without them permanently. But have been left as optional for those who wish to run
with them in the wet or any conditions.
Cheers Matt
yes, I did think they were quite necessary at Cadwell
Mallory too, even when testing at Silverstone this year some cars just suddenly appeared out of the spray whereas the ones running lights were far
easier to spot.
By good fortune I made my Locost headlight brackets removable earlier this year, each side is now held on by 4 bolts into rivnuts in the chassis tubes
(the holes were already there as the previous owner had mounted the brackets with rivets).
Shaun.
Perhaps I'm on my own on this one but removing the lights and front indicators albeit optional is the start of turning the locost into a mini
Caterham, I mean what will be the next change, slick tyres, a different cam, twin 40 carbs...then a different engine with an ECU, no, I'm afraid
I am not happy about the change and the ethos of Locost is being slowly eroded.
Andy P
Front suspension pick up to be located as per section 6 diagram 3 - which doesn't exist!! Can anyone explain?
Rgds Dc
Halemini. The suspension pick-up diagram is on page 10 of the online regs. You need to turn the page (or your head) through 90 degrees to make sense of it. Maurice
Thanks modee, On page 10 there is one diagram showing the rear suspension? Nothing else! Is my iPad playing up? Is it meant to be the same diagram as last year?
Halemini. There should be 3 diagrams on page 10. Maurice
I checked again this morning on a real computer and it's all there! So it was a technical problem - Apologies!
Thanks again
Dc
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Originally posted by pointy
Perhaps I'm on my own on this one but removing the lights and front indicators albeit optional is the start of turning the locost into a mini Caterham, I mean what will be the next change, slick tyres, a different cam, twin 40 carbs...then a different engine with an ECU, no, I'm afraid I am not happy about the change and the ethos of Locost is being slowly eroded.
Andy P
do the rear indicators need to flash obviously if so whats the best way round this lights inside some were or side mounts
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Originally posted by locost47
do the rear indicators need to flash obviously if so whats the best way round this lights inside some were or side mounts
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Originally posted by locost47
do the rear indicators need to flash obviously if so whats the best way round this lights inside some were or side mounts
I love the 1:1 scale of your photo Max 
cheers shaun look forward to reply
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I love the 1:1 scale of your photo Max
I emailed Alan Coller (the rep) for clarification on whether we could remove all rear lighting, except for rain & stop lights
Alan replied that the proposed regs have to be cleared by the MSA first.
All rear lights should remain at this stage.
With regard to indicator flash rates, in 7 seasons of racing, I have never been required by the scroots to show them working.
If so, the flash rate on my car would be as quick as I could flick the switch back & forth because I have no flasher module fitted
Reply from 750MC:
Indicators will not be part of the scrutineering checks, neither will hazard lights.
If headlights are fitted, they must be fully functional. (I had asked whether side/dipped/main all needed to be present, or was dipped sufficient as
that is all I'd ever use in the rain).
The rain light must be independent from the side lights. (MOT requirement is that Fog light cannot be operated independant of side lights, so this is
different).
Only the items mentioned can be removed – the others must remain in situ. (I asked whether we could remove horn - although I have actually used it to
attract a marshal's attention to someone boiling over in front of me on a restart grid)
Shaun.
So could you remove the originally fitted air dams (5,3/4 headlights) and fit something less aerodynamically challenging? Not quite the LED rings that Mr Cassidy presented in 2010, but projector lights may aleiviate some of the concerns of driving in the rain.
No idea, but mine are off but on a waterproof quick connector so can be added back on in less than 5 mins.
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So could you remove the originally fitted air dams (5,3/4 headlights) and fit something less aerodynamically challenging?
I still think this is a bad rule removing the head lights..... And dangerous in wet conditions...
Looking at it from another point of view, lights dont really matter. In a fair few championships you dont require any lights.... We run fine with only a rainlight.
Maybe, but is your racing as close as locost.....
I dooubt it.
Rain light fine for you coming up to the rear of someone, but how do I know someone getting close or diving up the inside when there lots of spray?
Ourselves probably arent quite as close but some of FFord is just as close and doesnt run any lights....