Rob55
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| posted on 18/11/12 at 01:02 PM |
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Which parts to rose joint?
I am at the point of fitting my suspension and need to decide on ball joints all round. At the moment I have Westfield front (wide) and rear arms and
alloy uprights all round, along with nylon bushes. With regard to ball joints, I was thinking:
1. Front top ball joint - convert to rose joint to allow easy camber adjustment.
2. Front lower ball joint - use standard ball joint, no advantage to be gained from rose jointing.
3. Front track rod ends - rose joint for better steering feedback.
4. Rear upper - convert to rose joint for camber adjustment.
5. Rear lower - convert to rose joint for toe adjustment.
What do you think, would this be beneficial or overkill? And have I missed anything? Lastly who would you recommend to buy the kit from?
Rob
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Slimy38
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| posted on 18/11/12 at 01:20 PM |
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What benefit do rose joints have over ball joints or track rod ends? Don't they both give a similar range of adjustment and similar lack of
unwanted movement?
I understand replacing rubber mounts with them, but not ball joints?
Or have I missed something?
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britishtrident
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| posted on 18/11/12 at 02:35 PM |
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Deck chair re-arranging at least at the front.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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snapper
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| posted on 18/11/12 at 03:20 PM |
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Camber done by top ball joint which should have same adjustment as a top rose joint
Hubs would need reaming to fit rose joint
Bottom track rods adjust toe as standard
Rose joints need to be strong to take the strain no need to swap ball joints for rosé unless you want full adjustment every where
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snakebelly
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| posted on 18/11/12 at 08:52 PM |
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And the ride comfort will be greatly affected if you go all rose joint
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coyoteboy
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| posted on 18/11/12 at 09:34 PM |
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People who drive these cars worry about ride comfort?!
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Rob55
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| posted on 18/11/12 at 09:37 PM |
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I'm not worried about comfort, and whilst the car is going through IVA (occasional road use) it is being built for racing!
So back on subject, which of the above, if any, would you guys rose joint?
Rob
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Rob55
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| posted on 21/11/12 at 06:34 PM |
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Well slight update, I bought tapered shims from Westfield which go into the front upright to allow a rose joint to be fitted. Now just to decide on
the rose joints themselves, as the wishbone is an M18 thread! I have seen people bore out an M18 bolt with an internal 1/2" thread into which a
rose joint is inserted. Any comments on this or are there any "off the shelf" conversions?
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britishtrident
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| posted on 21/11/12 at 07:03 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Rob55
Well slight update, I bought tapered shims from Westfield which go into the front upright to allow a rose joint to be fitted. Now just to decide on
the rose joints themselves, as the wishbone is an M18 thread! I have seen people bore out an M18 bolt with an internal 1/2" thread into which a
rose joint is inserted. Any comments on this or are there any "off the shelf" conversions?
Just use a Transit darg link --- it it is more suitable for the job.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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