chris_harris_
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| posted on 23/11/06 at 07:26 PM |
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de dion and shocks
Hi all, i've got a set of standard locost shocks for my car but have upgraded to a gts de dion, thing is my shocks are i think 13" so was
thinking could i mount them to the side of the brackets using longer bolts, (similar to an original escort axle) as opposed to on the top, like this.
Does this make any sense?
 
Thanks to flak monkey for the pic.
Regards Chris
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MikeR
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| posted on 23/11/06 at 08:18 PM |
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Its what i do on my live axle. Westfield do it on their live axle as well ........
and you see a number of vans with the shocks in single shear.
(ok, i added an extra bracket to my axle so it wasn't in single shear).
The only issue you might have is the size of the bolt for the trailing arms and shock being different. If you've got Avo's they sell all
sorts of sizes of bush for not very much. Give them a call and they'll sort you out.
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chris_harris_
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| posted on 23/11/06 at 08:52 PM |
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Thanks for the advise on the avo,s. although i think mine are gaz shocks. I too added an extra bracket to my live axle and it seemed to work well. The
other advantage to doing it this way will be that i don't have to cut off and turn through 90 degrees the upper shock mount, which is one less
thing to do! Think i'll just go for it now, being messing around for long enough now!!
Regards Chris
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 23/11/06 at 10:14 PM |
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I was going to do that, but I was really not wanting to mount the shocks in single shear, even if other people do. Also it means the lower shock bush
axis is 90 degrees to were it was intended. I think the GTS design is correct, putting the bushes under torsion in bump/droop rather than twising the
bushes to one side which they don't like much.
Have to say though, I'm sure the shock bracket on my De-Dion is located/supported a lot better than that one seems to be.
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3GEComponents
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| posted on 24/11/06 at 01:41 PM |
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There's not a problem with having the shock in single shear, the trick is in having it mounted correctly.
This is how to do it right.
It's the bottom holes by the way, the one on top is for the tailing arm.
[Edited on 24/11/06 by jroberts]
 
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3GEComponents
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| posted on 24/11/06 at 01:44 PM |
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MikeRJ,
Here's how i've got my shock bracket.
 
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ashtal
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| posted on 24/11/06 at 06:59 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jroberts
MikeRJ,
Here's how i've got my shock bracket.
That looks like a lot has work has gone into that. Did you build it to any plans ?
very nice welding 
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chris_harris_
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| posted on 24/11/06 at 07:23 PM |
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The top pic that i originally posted was coutesy of flak monkey, its very similar to the gts one that i have, ( getting it was another story). If i
could do it again i'd buy one from jroberts, as i've heard nothing but good things. I think its going to take just as long to try and move
the shock mount and create a suitably strong bracket, so i'm going to sell my 13" avo' s and buy a pair of 11" protechs
instead.
Regards Chris
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 24/11/06 at 10:02 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jroberts
MikeRJ,
Here's how i've got my shock bracket.
That sure is some pretty looking welding there  Very nice indeed, did you TIG it?
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Peteff
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| posted on 24/11/06 at 10:45 PM |
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Very nice indeed, did you TIG it?
Not if the welding gun behind the axle is anything to go by, pay attention at the back.
Could you angle your top brackets in to use the longer dampers if the brackets are the other way on to live axle brackets?
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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3GEComponents
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| posted on 25/11/06 at 02:38 PM |
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Nope, that's just from our MIG, mind you it's a beast of a machine that can run all day at up to 300 amps.
Makes light work of welding jobs.
Thanks Chris, keep your eyes peeled for new projects coming soon.
Ashtal, it's built to my own plans, with input from MikeR, available in Escort width to fit standard chassis, and Sierra width for +4"
ones.
[Edited on 25/11/06 by jroberts]
[Edited on 25/11/06 by jroberts]
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 25/11/06 at 08:13 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
Not if the welding gun behind the axle is anything to go by, pay attention at the back.
Errr...I was distracted by quality of the welding. Also I have the attention span of a
Oh look a MIG gun!
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3GEComponents
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| posted on 25/11/06 at 09:58 PM |
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If it's any consolation Mike, it's all the welding plant, i only point and squirt!
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ashtal
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| posted on 26/11/06 at 04:56 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jroberts
Nope, that's just from our MIG, mind you it's a beast of a machine that can run all day at up to 300 amps.
Makes light work of welding jobs.
Thanks Chris, keep your eyes peeled for new projects coming soon.
Ashtal, it's built to my own plans, with input from MikeR, available in Escort width to fit standard chassis, and Sierra width for +4"
ones.
[Edited on 25/11/06 by jroberts]
[Edited on 25/11/06 by jroberts]
What about an omega width
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3GEComponents
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| posted on 26/11/06 at 05:50 PM |
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With Sierra's becoming a rare sight now, it's an option, have you got all the parts for measuring?
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ashtal
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| posted on 26/11/06 at 10:14 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jroberts
With Sierra's becoming a rare sight now, it's an option, have you got all the parts for measuring?
Yeah but the donor is still on the road at the mo. Could take it to work and get it on the ramp. What is the mesurements of the sierra setup ?
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