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ken555

posted on 12/6/17 at 08:21 PM Reply With Quote
You get what you pay for ?

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Friend of mine took this photo yesterday of an Ariel Atom seat, doesn't look the quality I would have expected for the price.


[Edited on 12-6-17 by ken555]






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coozer

posted on 12/6/17 at 08:41 PM Reply With Quote
LOOKS VERY THIN!





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ste

posted on 12/6/17 at 09:51 PM Reply With Quote
What am I missing?

It is a carbon fibre seat. It's thin because it is strong. It is a homologated seat so will be approved.

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ken555

posted on 12/6/17 at 10:54 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by ste
What am I missing?

It is a carbon fibre seat. It's thin because it is strong. It is a homologated seat so will be approved.


The weave at the edges seems a bit rough ?

Top of the head restraint and 270 degree from left harness hole.






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mark chandler

posted on 13/6/17 at 02:38 AM Reply With Quote
Does look like a factory second, I would have returned it
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ste

posted on 13/6/17 at 04:26 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ken555
quote:
Originally posted by ste
What am I missing?

It is a carbon fibre seat. It's thin because it is strong. It is a homologated seat so will be approved.


The weave at the edges seems a bit rough ?

Top of the head restraint and 270 degree from left harness hole.


Looks like any other autoclaved carbon part to be honest. It looks that was because it has been vacuumed down. the face side will have been against a mold so will be smooth.

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phelpsa

posted on 13/6/17 at 05:52 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by ste
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Originally posted by ken555
quote:
Originally posted by ste
What am I missing?

It is a carbon fibre seat. It's thin because it is strong. It is a homologated seat so will be approved.


The weave at the edges seems a bit rough ?

Top of the head restraint and 270 degree from left harness hole.


Looks like any other autoclaved carbon part to be honest. It looks that was because it has been vacuumed down. the face side will have been against a mold so will be smooth.


That's not been anywhere near an autoclave

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russbost

posted on 13/6/17 at 07:06 AM Reply With Quote
Loads of weave missing at the top of the seat, & to N/S above seat belt hole - no one's mentioned what looks like a crack or potential starting point for a crack in that same area? Quite frankly I think the quality looks dire!





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nick205

posted on 13/6/17 at 08:39 AM Reply With Quote
Not that I can afford an Atom, but if I were shelling out for one I'd definitely expect better a better finish than that.
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Charlie_Zetec

posted on 13/6/17 at 09:58 AM Reply With Quote
Quite a large weave on the woven glass, and unsure if it's carbon fibre or just plain woven roving glass mat - composites are a lot stronger than people often give them credit for, especially with the different resins used, and even 0.05mm thickness can make a substantial difference to strength. So without knowing the composition, can't really comment about the rigidity.

But as for the aesthetics.... you'll always end up with a glass strike-through on glass fibre products unless you finish with a tissue and/or gelcoat or topcoat. As it's at the rear of a seat, why would a company spend more money (which they'd undoubtedly pass onto the customer) finishing a product when the majority of it is out of view in daily life?

Having said that, I too can see the missing weaves near the top of the headrest - looks like they've not cut the glass mat properly, and just pulled. I wouldn't be happy with that. Or the joint/cracked area top left corner of the seat belt hole that looks somewhat wafty.

As said, if I had the money to buy an Atom and that appeared, I would be rejecting it or expecting some financial recompense for that product.





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Mr Whippy

posted on 14/6/17 at 11:29 AM Reply With Quote
just horrid, I'm sure I could have done much better, trainee day perhaps
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