jeffw
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| posted on 14/12/13 at 04:00 PM |
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Escort hubs, stub axles & source of Ally Hubs
So....the saga is as follows
I have a set of alloy hubs on my Phoenix's front end. These I bought some 4 years ago and they use the standard (small) Escort bearings (ie not
the RS2000 ones).
One of the bearings has spun in the alloy hub, probable due to heat from the brakes so new bearings hubs required.
Set 1 from Rally Designs
Uses large bearings which don't fit the stub axles and would put the wheel 10mm further out.....returned
Set 2 from Burton
Advertised as for non-RS2000 using standard bearings.....bearings are correct but the hubs are 10mm wider than stock so the nut on the end of the
stub axle is flush and not far enough on for the split pin etc to go on. These will have to go back as well.
Set 3
Stock cast escort hubs fit fine with the smaller bearing set...
So the question is
Where to get alloy hubs that are the same dimensions as the stock, non-RS2000, Escort hubs and use the smaller bearing set...????
[Edited on 14/12/13 by jeffw]
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peter030371
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| posted on 14/12/13 at 04:19 PM |
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Have you spoken to Peter Lloyd Ralling I got some MkII escort stuff off them once before and they have
4 types of Alloy Hub so one of them might be what you are after?
Alloy Hubs linky
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Hector.Brocklebank
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| posted on 14/12/13 at 04:20 PM |
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I would have had your original hubs machined out in a mill very slightly larger and fitted a suitably slightly larger bearing with an O/D that would
match your application.
look at the likes of
These Guys
simples ....
or if you want a new hub but cant get a match use a new hub and get suitable bearings to match your O/D & I/D
again simples
[Edited on 14/12/2013 by Hector.Brocklebank]
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britishtrident
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| posted on 14/12/13 at 04:55 PM |
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How badly has the bearing damaged the hub ? as the permanent high strength grades of Loctite Bearing Fit can work wonders.
Locitite 660 work on 0.5 mm (20 thou" clearance giving a shear strength of 3,300 psi at up to 300c Loctite 680 would also work with
up to a 0.4mm (16 thou" gap.
Even general purpose Loctite 641 will work but has only just over half the shear strength.
I would add if the bearing has spun it probably because the bearing adjustment was to tight rather heat from the brakes, because of higher thermal
expansion alloy hubs need more end float than steel.
[Edited on 14/12/13 by britishtrident]
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jeffw
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| posted on 14/12/13 at 05:34 PM |
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Interesting BT....will give it a go...
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Andy S
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| posted on 14/12/13 at 09:32 PM |
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You could always add to this the old trick that's used when a bearing spins on the stub - give the surface a few hits with a centre punch as
well as the bearing fit adhesive.
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matt_gsxr
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| posted on 15/12/13 at 02:53 PM |
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I always been impressed by Burton as a supplier, they stock various alloy hubs and are normally knowledgeable.
http://www.burtonpower.com/catalogue-2013/cat-2013-page-115.html
Matt
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bigfoot4616
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| posted on 15/12/13 at 04:41 PM |
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just checked mine from rally design which came yesterday. bearings are correct as i'm using rs uprights but as you say they are 10mm wider.
my wheels are -7 offset so i already have quite a high scrub radius, certainly don't want any more so they will have to go back.
rally design should state on the website they increase track as burton do.
been checking burtons and they do an exact replica of the rs hubs so i will be getting those. £90 each instead of £50 from rally design.
still no help to the OP though.
[Edited on 15/12/13 by bigfoot4616]
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