Poll: American Election - Who would you vote for [View Results]
Clinton
Clinton – Trump is too ruthless
Clinton – I just don’t trust Trump
Clinton – Trump would be harm the US
Clinton – Trumps policies are just nuts
Trump
Trump – I just don’t trust Clinton
Trump – He'd be good for the US
Trump – Clinton is too ill
Trump – Clinton is self centered



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Mr Whippy

posted on 7/11/16 at 12:49 PM Reply With Quote
American Election - Who would you vote for

One of those times where 10 options just isn't enough... but who would you vote for and why?
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David Jenkins

posted on 7/11/16 at 12:57 PM Reply With Quote
You forgot the "none of the above" option...

I believe that US voters can write in the name of their preferred candidate - perhaps Bernie Sanders will make it after all!





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sdh2903

posted on 7/11/16 at 01:01 PM Reply With Quote
Unbelievable that these 2 muppets have got this far. They make Boris look good.

Even the sensible yanks are looking at it as "which one is the least worse?"

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Slimy38

posted on 7/11/16 at 02:11 PM Reply With Quote
Trump with access to nuclear weapons just doesn't bear thinking about... and there I was thinking Kim Jon Un was an accident waiting to happen!!

I think 'none of the above' seems appropriate.

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loggyboy

posted on 7/11/16 at 02:16 PM Reply With Quote
Trump is a joke - you cant use someone like that as a protest vote. Clinton isnt great by any stretch of the imagination, and a 3rd part vote would be a waste. Sadly she is the lesser of 2 evils.
Give her 4 years and find someone better for the next term.






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britishtrident

posted on 7/11/16 at 02:21 PM Reply With Quote
It is worth reading up on Trump's activities in Scotland,then his various other failed business ventures that other people carried the can for.
Hilary may have been around the Belt Way far too many times but she is a president the world can do business with.
Even as seems likely Trump is not elected he will still be dangerous.

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britishtrident

posted on 7/11/16 at 02:26 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by sdh2903
Unbelievable that these 2 muppets have got this far. They make Boris look good.

Even the sensible yanks are looking at it as "which one is the least worse?"


Trump makes Gove look like a nice guy and Fox look a paragon of honesty and Corben look like a realist.





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02GF74

posted on 7/11/16 at 04:19 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Slimy38
Trump with access to nuclear weapons just doesn't bear thinking about... and there I was thinking Kim Jon Un was an accident waiting to happen!!




I doubt that is the case. The president is a public figure for PR purposes but the real decisions are made by far smarter people in the back ground.





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mookaloid

posted on 7/11/16 at 04:29 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by 02GF74
quote:
Originally posted by Slimy38
Trump with access to nuclear weapons just doesn't bear thinking about... and there I was thinking Kim Jon Un was an accident waiting to happen!!




I doubt that is the case. The president is a public figure for PR purposes but the real decisions are made by far smarter people in the back ground.


Listening to Radio 4 the other day - on the 'Today Programme' They had an expert who said that ultimately it is the President's decision to fire the nukes. The President would be advised by the smarter people but he could ignore them if he chose and there is no legal basis to stop him - excepting of course if he can be declared mentally unfit for office in which case a straight jacket would seem the obvious way forward......





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loggyboy

posted on 7/11/16 at 04:30 PM Reply With Quote
It seems the LCB supporters of Trump dont want to justify it?!






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Irony

posted on 7/11/16 at 05:02 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by 02GF74
quote:
Originally posted by Slimy38
Trump with access to nuclear weapons just doesn't bear thinking about... and there I was thinking Kim Jon Un was an accident waiting to happen!!




I doubt that is the case. The president is a public figure for PR purposes but the real decisions are made by far smarter people in the back ground.



Who? Unless you can specifically name these shadowy all knowing president over-rulers then it is more than likely they just plain don't exist. Sound like a conspiracy theory to me.

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nick205

posted on 7/11/16 at 05:05 PM Reply With Quote
Maybe a "fail", but I think I'd probably stay home and see what happens in this one.






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britishtrident

posted on 7/11/16 at 05:14 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by nick205
Maybe a "fail", but I think I'd probably stay home and see what happens in this one.


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Dick Axtell

posted on 7/11/16 at 05:27 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by britishtrident
.........and Corben look like a realist.


Oh!! That's a step too far! Unless Mr. Corbyn's reality can find a match anywhere else in the world?

Quote -"Build Your Own Bomb Shelter for £250"-unquote.

That's a bit close for comfort

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steve m

posted on 7/11/16 at 05:42 PM Reply With Quote
If Trump hits the button, then May will hit ours (if we have one that works, and not on strike, or has leaves on the line )
Then Putin, and then the idiotic German Dictator Merkel, theirs

That will reduce the whole of the west to a no go zone, for a looooong time, and at least it will halt the Muislim takeover for a while

And then we have The East to contend with, and they do not seem any better

as for building a shelter, not sure its going to be worthwhile

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mark chandler

posted on 7/11/16 at 07:20 PM Reply With Quote
Jez, they have screwed themselves.

I,m reluctantly for Trump... Okay there I said it but will caveat this with if I was an American mid to low level worker.

Also listening to radio 4, Trump is not crazy and he will feather his nest but once the heat has died down he will start to make deals for his country/himself as its how he made his millions.

He will generate industry in America by by making anything imported unprofitable, so the minions will be better off

Down side is it will not be balanced so lots of collateral damage, he will take them back to clan days to get his way.

Clinton, told to hand over her emails and 33,000 suddenly disappear, she should not be allowed to stand on that alone. Millions poured in by the Arabs to pay for her campaign, she will be paying this back.... protecting their interests and she just looks so bloody smug!

Trump will probally better for us, needs a few allies.

For the rest if the world, he is a disaster waiting to happen.

Hillary is a safe bet, she will be managed by the republican senate so will be controlled.

Either way they have screwed themselves, killed their industries and borrowed trillions, I think I would like to see a big change and shake up.

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David Jenkins

posted on 7/11/16 at 07:52 PM Reply With Quote
The have been some strong rumours about Russian backing for Trump... probably total fiction, but...





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Benzine

posted on 7/11/16 at 07:55 PM Reply With Quote
Mr Whippy for prez!
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LBMEFM

posted on 7/11/16 at 08:38 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by mark chandler

Also listening to radio 4, Trump is not crazy and he will feather his nest but once the heat has died down he will start to make deals for his country/himself as its how he made his millions.

Am I right in thinking that Trump inherited his fortune and has infact lost millions in failed business ventures.

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SteveWallace

posted on 7/11/16 at 08:55 PM Reply With Quote
I have an American friend who I asked the other day when he was over here. He said that he feels like he's been given a revolver and been asked to choose whether he wants to shoot himself in the right temple or the left one!
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britishtrident

posted on 7/11/16 at 09:02 PM Reply With Quote
Trump first although he promotes himself as a self-made millionaire and a financial genius this contrary to the evidence in fact he inherited a huge pile of money from his father and hasn't added to it in fact if he had just left the money he inherited in the Chase Manhattan bank at normal interest rates he would be worth more today.

His father used some pretty nasty methods to to build his property empire after his father's death under Donald's control the Trump organisation was proved several times to be enforcing a colour bar on the occupation of its properties.

Trump undertook disasterous huge casino developments in Alantic City
http://www.newsweek.com/2016/11/11/donald-trump-companies-destroyed-emails-documents-515120.html

Trump claims about Scottish golf resorts don't match up to anything like reality. the tactics he used to gain control of the land have been the subject of a 2011 documentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk-MHQE2xPQ

A special irony attaches to his repeated attacks on HRC with regard to the emails http://www.newsweek.com/2016/11/11/donald-trump-companies-destroyed-emails-documents-515120.html

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mark chandler

posted on 7/11/16 at 09:04 PM Reply With Quote
A complete mess.....

at least the senate controls them.

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perksy

posted on 7/11/16 at 10:48 PM Reply With Quote
Having watched "You've been Trumped" I really hope its Clinton who wins it

I can't believe anybody would watches that would support Trump after the way he treated the folks up North
Having said that some of the folks 'in power' up there didn't come out of it looking too good either...


*If* Trump does get in I think the world will become a less safer place to live

I like Obama and it's a shame he can't stay when you compare him to these two...

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britishtrident

posted on 8/11/16 at 01:05 PM Reply With Quote
I predict if elected HRC is likely to step down after one term and I suspect Michelle Obama may seek the Democrat nomination.





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spaximus

posted on 8/11/16 at 05:32 PM Reply With Quote
What you need to do here though is understand that politics in the US are way different to here. Over there it has become discredited with the way they are funded and big business has a huge influence over everything.

The press coverage in the UK is distorted and it is the same in the US. Every dirty trick has been used against Trump and yes he is a sexist whose mouth runs away with him. However there is a big but!!!

He appeals to the working class there, he stood up when Ford said they were going to move the production of passenger cars to Mexico and said he will impose a 35% import tax on them as he could not stand by and see American jobs exported. Clinton said it was up to Ford what they did.

When you see Detroit, for example you can see how that devastates everything in the area and why blue collar workers like what they hear.

Trumps biggest mistake is his "we will build a wall, all illegal Mexicans are rapists" comments. Normally many Latinos are working class poor people, who work hard, however there is a huge percentage in Florida who are Latino and he needs to win that state and his comments have not gone down there well. His next one was picking a fight with a Muslim Father who lost a son in the military, I suspect he was badly advised but just kept on digging a hole instead of saying sorry.

Who is most dangerous between the two, hard to say. Trump could get on with Putin as they are alike. He would certainly take the fight to ISIS in a way that the rest of the Wests leaders are unwilling to do. Clinton on the other hand wants to go down in history as the first female President and might want to prove she is harder than any man.

What is clear to most rational people is the US have never had such a bad choice of people. Out of the whole country they could not find anyone better than these two. We think we have problems here but they are nothing compared with the US.

The polls suggest it is Clinton who will win, but there is a suspicion that many when asked are saying Clinton when they will vote Trump as they don't want people to really know.

I have friends who live in Florida, work for the Government and are decent rational people, they and many of their friends including women, Blacks and Latino's support Trump as Clinton has more skeletons than a graveyard to come out and she has been proved dishonest several times. They want a strong president who will stand up for the US above all else, they do not see her as doing that as she has too many favours to pay back first.

I would not be shocked if there is an upset and he wins, but who knows what the outcome will be and how the world will react to either one.

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