roaddevil
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| posted on 4/11/14 at 02:29 PM |
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zetec rwd help or facts needed
Okay here we go , zetec 2 blacktop is in the garage, besides is a mt75 out of a 2.0 sierra, a starter from a 4x4 cosworth and the spacer for the
clutch asnd not to forgel the small bearing. Can please everbody confirm that this will bolt up fine next week? As more yes answers i get the better i
sleep, as better is sleep as more pictures i post , and i know .... thats is whats everybody like :-)
sorry for my bad english, the swiss guy :-)
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r1_pete
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| posted on 4/11/14 at 02:49 PM |
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Yes blacktop to MT75 is fine, you'll need an intermediate plate, I modified the one to match the gearbox.
Starter, I cannot comment on that particular motor, I used a QX Components QS1221.
The blacktop 2 piece sump needs oceans of alloy cutting away to get the starter in, don't be scared..... I ended up using a silvertop sump,
check in my archive for pictures etc. including fitting the silvertop windage tray.
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roaddevil
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| posted on 4/11/14 at 03:48 PM |
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okay thats with the oil sump is a good point, the silvertop will fit without further modifications, and wheres can i get the intermediate plate?
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Dick Axtell
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| posted on 4/11/14 at 05:02 PM |
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Water Rail?
Have heard a lot about this part :-
http://www.burtonpower.com/water-rail-raceline-zetec-e-fz470.html
I know there are other similar solutions. Are they really necessary?
Work-in-Progress: Changed to Zetec + T9. Still trying!!
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roaddevil
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| posted on 4/11/14 at 05:11 PM |
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not sure if i need it because its gonna be in my transit :-) i will post update pics
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big_wasa
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| posted on 4/11/14 at 06:08 PM |
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Don't waste your money on a water rail unless it wont fit with out.
Dust cover, draw around the bell housing and cut it out. I make mine around 1.5mm thick.
Starter, should do if it was dohc 4x4. Pinto will need a spacer.
Sump, yep lots of chopping and the bowl will want modifying for the cross member wont it ?
I chop an inch of the bottom of the Mt75 as well.
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roaddevil
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| posted on 5/11/14 at 08:27 AM |
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thanks a lot for all the advice ,amazing.
Wheres can i get the spacer for the starter, or how does it look ?
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big_wasa
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| posted on 5/11/14 at 04:07 PM |
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I've never done it but there is info on here.
Link
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roaddevil
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| posted on 5/11/14 at 10:38 PM |
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okay never heard about that spacer but looks not that hard to do it :-)
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big_wasa
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| posted on 6/11/14 at 08:28 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by roaddevil
okay never heard about that spacer but looks not that hard to do it :-)
Most people just use the dohc or cvh starter then the spacer is not needed.
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roaddevil
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| posted on 6/11/14 at 10:16 AM |
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its exactly what i was reading about the 4x4 cosworth starter,what would make sense to me because it was a nothing else than a mt75 with a transfer
case
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roaddevil
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| posted on 11/11/14 at 02:15 PM |
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just wonder ,my starter is on the intake site , yours too ?
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DW100
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| posted on 11/11/14 at 03:08 PM |
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If it is going in a Transit then don't you want a Transit MT75 so the gear lever is in the right place?
Transit bell housing is massive and has an adaptor plate on the back of the engine.
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roaddevil
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| posted on 11/11/14 at 04:11 PM |
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no i think its gonna wotk with the sierra , just wonder about the fit.
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big_wasa
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| posted on 11/11/14 at 06:47 PM |
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I thought all uk sierras had the starter on the Near side (exhausts side on a cvh or zetec). Every zetec conversion ive seen or done was with the
starter on the exhaust side.
I know the escort Rs bell housing has mounts both side.
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roaddevil
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| posted on 15/11/14 at 09:04 AM |
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okay buddys here we go. The starter is really on the intake side what i was reading in other forums it is a good thing . I was ordering a a cosworth
4x4 starter as recomended in a lot of google research but of course it does not fit :-( What a crap here are some pics
This is the part from the oil pan i have to remove i guess, as long i dont just wanna park downhill :-)
okay this is the starter hole location, it is under the intake, what i heard is a good thing
[Edited on 15/11/14 by roaddevil]
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roaddevil
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| posted on 15/11/14 at 09:15 AM |
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my question is now which starter will fit ? i ordered a cosworth 4x4 starter but the boltpattern is diffrent then the one on my mt75 :-(
more pics
the transmission to engine was a easy deal:-)
the top of a blacktop :-)
here it is good visible on top is the intake and underneath the place for the starter
does anyone has a ordernumber or so for the starter, i am in a hurry ,my timewindow is only 14 days before we wanne trave around the world in the car
with the engine in it. No comments about that, all my frienbds allready complain the whole day long lol
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big_wasa
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| posted on 15/11/14 at 11:16 AM |
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The short answer is you need what ever starter was attached to that gearbox when it left the factory.
Do you no what spec and continent that car was sold to ?
My guess is a German 2.0 dohc Sierra or Granada ?
So a 4x4i starter will fit if its 2.0 dohc 4x4i eu spec.
As for the clearance on the sump you have to keep chopping it away until it fits but don't go to far as you will go through.
Like I say every sierra and Granada I've had and I've had twelve or so, the starter has been passenger side.
[Edited on 15/11/14 by big_wasa]
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r1_pete
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| posted on 15/11/14 at 11:34 AM |
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The 2.0L Scorpio had the starter on the opposite side to the sierra, it also had a hydraulic clutch IIRC, so could be another clue as to where the box
is from...
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roaddevil
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| posted on 15/11/14 at 11:39 AM |
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passenger side is right as long we talk of englisht cars :-) its out of a 2.0 sierra :-)
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turnipfarmer
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| posted on 15/11/14 at 12:49 PM |
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From what I've read, if the starter is on the inlet side, you need the Lucas LRS758 or equivalent.
Cross-reference table here... http://www.woodauto.com/Component.aspx?Ref=STR2009
But do check before buying!
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