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Ian Jones

posted on 5/10/13 at 07:32 PM Reply With Quote
out of the loop, help on what to ask... (job)

Hi all

I have been in my current job for around the last 9 years or so.

I enjoy it, well am use to it and often it can be boring (like most jobs after a time)

I can not go up the ladder as it is a family run company, I can learn to do new parts of the job, but it doesn't mean more ££, it just means more in expected etc. work wise it is relaxed and flexible if I need time off.

money wise, everyone in the part where I work has had a rise once in the last 4 years.

I would say it is a safe job, that if I wanted could be there for many years to come.


I was approached by my partners boss the other day, as he asked me if I could come for a chat sometime.
I went to see him on friday, and he has just brought a 2nd unit and is starting to kit out with all new stuff and he has asked if I would run.

Job wise it is all most the same as what I am doing now, but I will all most be my own boss, more money, but also with that, I would say the work load would be more and more weight on my shoulders, stress etc

Again, I wont be able to climb the ladder as there would not be other higher position to go into.


As my feet are well planted at my current job, is it worth the move, but they say, it is better to try and poss fail, than not try at all.

what sort of questions should I be looking to ask?

any info or help would be very welcome.

thanks
ian

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mookaloid

posted on 5/10/13 at 07:51 PM Reply With Quote
are you a natural risk taker?

what if the new venture fails or you don't get on with the new boss? can you get another job easily enough?

whats most important to you? security or more money?

hard to say with that limited information but those would be the questions i'd be asking myself





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nick205

posted on 5/10/13 at 08:18 PM Reply With Quote
For the guy to approach you, he must have a reasonable feel for what you would bring to his company. That's a strong start IMO. Likewise, you (or your partner) must have a reasonable feel for the the company and the guy running it. Again, a strong start and much more than most people have when contemplating a new job.

One thing to consider is both you and your partner working together and both drawing wages from the same employer. If it goes wrong for one of you, it could sour it for the other both in and out of work. Much as respect and love my dear old SWMBO working with her as well would be too much for me






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Ian Jones

posted on 5/10/13 at 09:21 PM Reply With Quote
are you a natural risk taker? ..... not really


what if the new venture fails or you don't get on with the new boss? can you get another job easily enough?..... I would say so, but to find a job that pays what you need and to find one that you like is harder.

whats most important to you? security or more money?........... both really, all bills have gone up but pay has not







we will both be in different buildings, but i know what you mean about seeing to much of each other.

sometimes it is better to try something, than to look back and say what if...

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bi22le

posted on 6/10/13 at 01:37 AM Reply With Quote
Its hard to beleive in a dead end job if you have any control or drive.

Companies like profit. If you make money you can gain influence. This is where your direction comes from.

Neck on the line, if you dont mind upsetting your current employer and feel your up for it then go for it.

Don't worry about your wife being employed by the same company. Worse case is you balls it up and leave.
It's better to die trying then to have never tried at all.

But then again, I may be the wrong person to ask about that! ?!





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Macbeast

posted on 6/10/13 at 05:52 AM Reply With Quote
I would probably go with the new job but insist on significant increase in pay over what you are currently getting to reflect additional responsibility.
One thing that would worry me if both you and your partner work for the same company you lose both incomes if the company fails.





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mark chandler

posted on 6/10/13 at 09:01 AM Reply With Quote
If you do not want additional responsibility then you have already removed your chance of promotion/increased wage where you are.

If however you do want to earn more then move, moving jobs is the the only way to really accelerate your wage.

Looking from a different aspect.

The person that head hunted you believes you have the capability.
You get bored at work, you then have scope to do more.
You know the market and industry, will it sustain a local competitor?

Set a realistic figure in your mind that would make moving acceptable and if you can negotiate this leave is my advice.

Regards Mark

[Edited on 6/10/13 by mark chandler]

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johnny chimpo

posted on 6/10/13 at 04:51 PM Reply With Quote
If you dont go and give it a try will there always be that regret in your mind years down the line?

I very much believe in whats for you wont go by you, this option being presented to you is your chance to try something new. There will be more responsibility and more work to do, but you'll never get a significant wage rise anywhere without increased workload or responsibility.

3 years ago i was headhunted for the job which i have done since. Leading up to that i had worked for a small family run company for the pevious 5 years, yearly wage rises were small and there was no ladder to progress up, until the current bosses retired, and they were 20 years plus away from that.

I now work for a much bigger company where the pay rises have been significant each year and six months ago i was promoted to a european technical specialist role ( the next step up the ladder). The wage is much better, as are the perks but the responsibilites and workload is greater aswell.

Would i change and go back to my previous job? Not a chance..... And thats coming from someone whos been away for a week and is spending there sunday in heathrow getting ready to travel home!!!

Go for it.... Better to regret doing something than not doing it!

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