loggyboy
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| posted on 1/12/16 at 03:45 PM |
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Originally posted by adithorp
AFAIK... The first ones were using a modified Striker chassis for development work but the s2 is their own design. Similar in many respects to both
Striker and Fury chassis but not the same.
Very good point.
and clearly very different.
 
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[Edited on 1-12-16 by loggyboy]
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StevieB
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| posted on 1/12/16 at 04:37 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
AFAIK... The first ones were using a modified Striker chassis for development work but the s2 is their own design. Similar in many respects to both
Striker and Fury chassis but not the same.
Very good point.
and clearly very different.
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[Edited on 1-12-16 by loggyboy]
Is that not the Sabre chassis (mid engine)? It looks like that's now moved across to Aries, with AB developing the front engined Arion.
I'm confused 
I'm looking for a state chassis for a track car too - all I want is a simple, lightish chassis in fairly basic form that I can add to, take away
from, develop and just generally learn some stuff (and either make a good car or a complete mess, but it's the journey that counts).
What's missing in the market at the moment is a decent basic chassis - everything has gone too complex and prices have gone up in line.
I'm almost as tempted to buy an old Westy in need of sprucing up and using that as the basis, or even a Westfield starter kit which are priced
about the same as any other these days seemingly.
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loggyboy
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| posted on 1/12/16 at 04:48 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by StevieB
Is that not the Sabre chassis (mid engine)? It looks like that's now moved across to Aries, with AB developing the front engined Arion.
You could be right, its taken from another post - thats why its different!! lol
[Edited on 1-12-16 by loggyboy]
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OliilO
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| posted on 1/12/16 at 06:06 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
quote:
Originally posted by OliilO
I'd be buying an AB Performance Arion if I was looking at building a new BEC. I'm pretty sure one has recently passed IVA as well.
The arion is built off the Striker Chassis, (I assume its had some minor mods, im sure Andy would be happy to confirm any major differences)
AB used to be a regional seller for Raw, specialising in BECs
Yes, but from what I have seen there has been considerable development of the running gear etc which produces a fast and well put together package
that has been designed to work together from the off.
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marti
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| posted on 3/12/16 at 09:41 AM |
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I have narrow it down to MK and Westfield.
Does somebody know if the westfield chassis have evolve over the years?
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gaz_gaz
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| posted on 3/12/16 at 12:30 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
quote:
Originally posted by OliilO
I'd be buying an AB Performance Arion if I was looking at building a new BEC. I'm pretty sure one has recently passed IVA as well.
The arion is built off the Striker Chassis, (I assume its had some minor mods, im sure Andy would be happy to confirm any major differences)
AB used to be a regional seller for Raw, specialising in BECs
I have 1 of the original Arion S1 Chassis as raced by Stephen Bell with 3 or 4 RGB race wins
I can speak from my experience and observations only..
A type 9 Gearbox does not fit in the tunnel of my chassis but it does fit in the chassis of a Striker so is there a BEC chassis only from RAW?
I feel the chassis is similar (very similar) too look at to a Striker TR chassis but there appears to be a lot of extra bracing around the front
suspension pickup points, There's also a couple of additional braces across the front of the car, I also think the pick up positions have been
tweaked a little As when i had a knock repaired the bracket positions where not the same as a TR striker.
The S2 chassis is dimensionally different to the chassis i have, The infill panels used on the new chassis where no good to me when I came to fitting
my bodywork and they had to be made as 1 offs.
Andy has also modified and lightened most of the wishbones and rockers compared to most of the bits on my car.
this car also has an additional rear ARB as well as some other tweaks mine doesn't have.
Anything else I'm unaware of but I've not looked closely at the S2 chassis
The Arion has been in constant development and all parts found to work by racing have been made available to his day to day customers.
On top of that I feel the service offered by Andy is pretty unbeatable, He's returned calls at silly oclock and made the trip from Suffolk to
Sussex to deliver my bodywork when i had no way of getting it home, Any silly email or facebook questions I've had have been answered within hrs
with detailed answers way beyond what I'd have expected.
If i where building a BEC no one else would get a look in, He may not be the cheapest but cheapest isn't always best and with a 7 body car about
to be released very soon there's not even that excuse anymore.
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phelpsa
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| posted on 3/12/16 at 01:08 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by marti
I have narrow it down to MK and Westfield.
Does somebody know if the westfield chassis have evolve over the years?
We used to hillclimb an Aries and now have a Westfield Megabusa. We changed as an easy way to get a more modern engine package and to be able to
compete in the WSCC speed series.
The advantage of the Westfield comes in the knowledge and parts supply. The quality of the chassis is a bit better, but value for money the Aries is
excellent.
Westfield no longer produce the lightweight 'track' chassis, so like for like the Aries could probably end up slightly lighter and the
suspension geometry is slightly better with more stable roll centers and better camber characteristics for track work. However the Westfield has an
off the shelf FIA approved full cage option which makes for a better competition car.
If I was building from bare chassis for track days I'd definitely be looking at the Aries (again).
Personally I don't like the MK/MNR derived kits as I feel they compromise in the wrong areas for me. However I know people have had a lot of fun
in them and they can be peddled pretty quickly (i've never been beaten by one though  ).
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StevieB
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| posted on 3/12/16 at 05:13 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by marti
I have narrow it down to MK and Westfield.
Does somebody know if the westfield chassis have evolve over the years?
I've built and Indy and owned a Westfield as well.
The Westfield quality was far better in almost every way, and the amount of parts and upgrades is endless.
There's probably not much between them on paper, but i reality if I was choosing again (and I kind of am), the Westfield would get my money
every time unless the MK was offered at a significant cost advantage.
The Westfield also brings a big advantage in it's resale value as well
[Edited on 3/12/16 by StevieB]
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jeffw
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| posted on 3/12/16 at 06:47 PM |
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Rob Johnson's Cyana chassis would be my choice...
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StevieB
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| posted on 3/12/16 at 08:53 PM |
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Originally posted by jeffw
Rob Johnson's Cyana chassis would be my choice...
Are Cyana still around?
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marti
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| posted on 5/12/16 at 08:38 PM |
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The megabusa chassis is the same since the beginning?
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