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b14wrc

posted on 18/8/20 at 04:33 PM Reply With Quote
German cars

Well owning Japanese cars for at least the past 15 years, I finally sold my GT86 in favour of something different. This was March and since then Iíve enjoyed ownership but a few niggles and the first part replacement. Fortunately my warranty covered me and I opted for carrying out the labour myself. Rather know my car is in safe hands.

Suspension was starting to show signs of leaking and one was knocking - all four corners replaced, and what a difference. Ride quality is really good, not having much experience with this car, I found it really nice to work on and the quality of parts and materials is very impressive.

Car feels loads more solid now and doesnít knock or bounce around, had I driven a few more before I purchased this one maybe Iíd noticed, but maybe not....

Iím converted to German machinery, really nice to work on.











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Mr Whippy

posted on 18/8/20 at 05:04 PM Reply With Quote
It's great to hear you like working on them cos you'll be doing that alot
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steve m

posted on 18/8/20 at 06:11 PM Reply With Quote
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It's great to hear you like working on them cos you'll be doing that alot



HAHA

And when the bills come in, there immense!

Ive said this before, many many times, my job was !! delivering brand new cars to customers for non fault insurance claims, and on fleet we have Honda's BMW, Mercs, seat, volvo, Bentley, etc and many more variants,

The only garage that I have been to with a brand new car, or extremely low mileage car is BMW, and out of a five day shift, have been to the same Bmw garage 3-4 times, a week, normaly take a busted one in, and bring a crap on out, and these are 2019/20 cars, brand new, or under 12000 miles, when we scrap them, (only in my dreams)

Ive never been to Honda, Seat, Volvo, Nissan, nor any of the other manufactures Garages, nor has any of my drivers

BMW stands for overated, overpriced, and overhere

Just saying, as I wouldn't own, a piece of German engineering, if it was the last thing on the road,

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b14wrc

posted on 18/8/20 at 06:34 PM Reply With Quote
Iíve owned quite a few cars over the years and do the work myself.

Was just impressed with the build quality, clearly thought has gone into thinking how itís going to be worked on.

Audi wanted £600 to fit, so Saturday morning well spent. Enjoyed doing it, only way to learn doing it yourself. Good job R8 isnít new, theyíd insist they had to work on it.





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David Jenkins

posted on 18/8/20 at 09:15 PM Reply With Quote
I've mentioned this previously - my daughter left a VW Golf Mk4 GTi behind for me to sell on her behalf when she moved to Australia. That car had a catalogue of faults that were very well known on the VW forum (glass dropped in driver's door, jammed glove compartment, rear washer leaking into rear footwell, etc). This was supposed to be the top-of-the-range Golf, but it was a POS and these faults were very difficult to fix.

Later Skodas and Seats based on the Golf Mk4 chassis had EXACTLY the same faults, so VW obviously couldn't be bothered to rectify them.





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Simon

posted on 18/8/20 at 09:18 PM Reply With Quote
Me confused! I gather you are referring to an Audi R8 - which costs as much as a house (size dependent on where you live) and you are impressed by the quality of the parts? How many miles has this car done to need anything replacing - 300,000?

I bought an Audi A6 V8 in mint condition for £500 as the engine "has an issue" still ran ok, but to repair it, bloke in a shed (my tintop maintenance chap) was gonna charge over £3000, most of that just to get the engine out. Bloke who owned the car was put in touch with me and I got it cheap; he then went and got another A6 (but diesel) and within a month the steering rack died and Audi quoted him £1800. Fortunately he got his money back from dealer, then bought a £500 pos (not Audi). I got the Boxster gearbox for my Beetle as engine in sellers car had expired spectacularly.

Have to agree with Steve M, german stuff is seriously overpriced and over rated. I know a chap who heard a BMW motorcycle sales manager refer to BMW as "their bikes are poo but their warranties are great". Same chaps brand new X1000XR was back in dealer within a week.

You pay your money etc...

I'll stick with Rover or Renault as both have always been brill for me.

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b14wrc

posted on 18/8/20 at 09:44 PM Reply With Quote
None of you must have owned a lotus Elise then lol.

Iím just reporting my experience here, from Japanese cars, Celicaís, Auris and GT86, and yes the Audi R8 seems well designed and easy to work on. Remember the donor car for my locost was a Fiat coupe, these are ďlovely carsĒ to work on! I had my GT four at the same time and the difference between the cars was night and day!

My R8 has done 33k, yer disappointing the shocks failed (and I avoided the mag ride option) but I think it was age as much as anything. They should be good now. Any way itís just my daily and as Iím working from home most of the time it wonít do huge miles over the next few years and it will live a pampered life.

If we all have to go out (with the kids) we take the Landrover. (Canít criticise me there?) British!



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steve m

posted on 18/8/20 at 10:34 PM Reply With Quote
How do you know someone has a BMW ?





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steve m

posted on 18/8/20 at 10:55 PM Reply With Quote
They tell you,

"ive got a BMW "

Cocks !!!

who else in a a conversation says, ive got a Ford, or Vauxhall, or Chevrolet , Nissan ?? exactly no one

I will admit, that out of all the German car brands, I don't mind Audi A8/Q7, are of the best cars ive driven, except the Bentley Continentals, but I could never own one, they are in a different class

I forgot to add, that the Porsches we have, we are not allowed to take them to the garage, they have to be collected from our site, in a fully covered unbranded trailer, about 3-4 a month, again zero to very low mileage

The Ferrari's however, ive not heard of any issues, but will check

says it all really, and this is on BRAND new zero mileage cars

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David Jenkins

posted on 19/8/20 at 06:53 AM Reply With Quote
Bentley Continental - the only car where you have to take the engine and transmission out to change the spark plugs.





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Mr Whippy

posted on 19/8/20 at 08:39 AM Reply With Quote
I'm glad you got such a nice car I hope you enjoy it immensely and I still think it's a much better purchase than a Ferrari etc

Doing most of the jobs yourself should make a huge difference in the running costs, maybe try to get hold of a Audi workshop manual and a good diagnostic reader. I think the trick with these kinds of cars is to keep on top of the maintenance and not let anything slip.

I think before I'd have put the new shocks on I'd have given them another coat of paint as it's clearly not enough going by the old set. Tbh I'm a bit underwhelmed by them, I'd have expected nice alloy adjustable coilovers like we have on the 7's but they just look like series landrover shocks with springs on them (I'm sure their not...)



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b14wrc

posted on 19/8/20 at 09:10 AM Reply With Quote
They are Bilstine.

But yer I know what you mean, if I was paying for them myself I would have gone for some coil overs, cheaper. But there are mixed reports on ride quality. So thought restore it to factory and then take it from there. The Gallardo that shares the chassis has adjustable versions of what I have. But getting ahold of them is not easy. Mine came from Audi, canít get them any where else.

I think itís a decent way to spend the money, prices have almost bottomed and with the Gen 2 cars all being Auto, the manual gear box should help retain value for the future. Plus itís an absolute joy to drive, going from 200bhp rear drive to 420bhp 4wd (mainly rear) is quite a change. It makes you feel special and is almost the Lamborghini but a load cheaper to live with and run.

Guess itís just what your into. Iím still expecting the locost to be crazier than my R8.....

Totally agree on keeping on top of stuff, noted a few bits when I did the shocks, oil cooler was partly blocked with soil, got that cleaned out to avoid issues, not sure the dealer would have bothered.

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mikeb

posted on 20/8/20 at 11:01 AM Reply With Quote
Stunning car, great work getting stuck in on the maintenance, you'll enjoy it a lot and fingers crossed it doesn't throw you a big bill. Not sure it was meant to be a how reliable and what money pits german cars are though lol. I'd love to have a drive of one.

My input, I like Audi's as my daily drives, I want to like BMWs as they are/were better to drive but had no joy with recent ones since I sold my very reliable K reg 3 series about 17 years ago. Not had a VW since my Mk2 sirocco that was bomb proof.

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b14wrc

posted on 20/8/20 at 03:04 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks Mike, the tread wasnít supposed to be a rant about German cars no....

I was just sharing some recent experience and was pleasantly surprised with the design.

Thanks re the car. Iím really happy with it generally, needs a couple of bits but will be done over the next few years. Itís a nice overall package the 4.2litre V8 and the manual box. Itís quick enough for me at the moment and appears to attract less hate than other super cars.





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David Jenkins

posted on 20/8/20 at 03:20 PM Reply With Quote
Sorry - didn't mean to rant!

Whatever I've said previously - I'd still wouldn't mind a drive in an R8 as they're lovely looking cars that, I'm sure, are tremendous to drive.

I just have a downer on VAG!





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jtskips

posted on 20/8/20 at 05:54 PM Reply With Quote
i like German cars they look so much better than that jap shit
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posted on 20/8/20 at 08:41 PM Reply With Quote
I like German cars too, VAG brands in particular. Driven them for many years both as company and private cars. Always been reliable for me as well.

Slight gripe with Passat B6 IRS in that it wore the rear tyres to a saw tooth on the inner edges. I think other manufacturers IRS cars possibly exhibit similar tendencies though so no buggy. Decent tyres seemed to overcome the issue to some extent as well.

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b14wrc

posted on 20/8/20 at 09:01 PM Reply With Quote
Did the Honda Civic do that saw tooth thing with itís tyres?

No worries, every one has their own taste. Itís my first VAG car, and Iíve been lucky enough to get a gen 1 R8, people have asked what Iíd get next and although I love the Gallardo (LP 560-4 Supperleggera = dream car), with the overall experience so far owning this car Iíd honestly consider another R8, just back from a quick blast, first time Iíve really driven it in the dark and itís awesome.

Iíve been into Japanese cars for year when I first got my Celica GT4 but when considering replacing my GT86 with the new Supra, I just wasnít that impressed with it for an out lay bigger than the cost of a good used R8 and the Supra is underneath actually a BMW, just put me off. Oh and no manual option.





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starterman

posted on 21/8/20 at 04:21 PM Reply With Quote
I wouldn't swap my BMW M140i for any of the other pieces of crap that are on the market. People are only jealous because most are poor and can't afford quality



quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
It's great to hear you like working on them cos you'll be doing that alot



HAHA

And when the bills come in, there immense!

Ive said this before, many many times, my job was !! delivering brand new cars to customers for non fault insurance claims, and on fleet we have Honda's BMW, Mercs, seat, volvo, Bentley, etc and many more variants,

The only garage that I have been to with a brand new car, or extremely low mileage car is BMW, and out of a five day shift, have been to the same Bmw garage 3-4 times, a week, normaly take a busted one in, and bring a crap on out, and these are 2019/20 cars, brand new, or under 12000 miles, when we scrap them, (only in my dreams)

Ive never been to Honda, Seat, Volvo, Nissan, nor any of the other manufactures Garages, nor has any of my drivers

BMW stands for overated, overpriced, and overhere

Just saying, as I wouldn't own, a piece of German engineering, if it was the last thing on the road,

steve

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