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omega0684

posted on 24/7/09 at 04:43 PM Reply With Quote
V6 Vs V6

3.0 Alfa V6 Vs Cosworth V6

pro and cons on each please

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eccsmk

posted on 24/7/09 at 04:47 PM Reply With Quote
im not a specialist on these engines
but
the cosworth one will be better due the the cosworth badge
:p :p













(sorry for the rubbish reply)

[Edited on 24/7/09 by eccsmk]






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richardh

posted on 24/7/09 at 04:48 PM Reply With Quote
cossie





Time for a change!

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mookaloid

posted on 24/7/09 at 04:54 PM Reply With Quote
Alfa - ally block so lighter, the 3.2 has 250 BHP - also looks stunning

Cossie - Iron Block I think, only 200BHP and heavy ugly thing





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Volvorsport

posted on 24/7/09 at 05:13 PM Reply With Quote
if its a cosworth GAA , then i would think cossie too .

otherwise its the alfa .





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gazza285

posted on 24/7/09 at 05:17 PM Reply With Quote
GAA? Not exactly two a penny these days.





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Guinness

posted on 24/7/09 at 05:25 PM Reply With Quote
The mad beating heart of a tempramental Italian anyday!

(But then I don't have to service it / put up with any potential un-reliabilty issues!)

Mike






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t16turbotone

posted on 24/7/09 at 06:06 PM Reply With Quote
choose the cossie, if you want to reach the end of your drive without it breaking
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posted on 24/7/09 at 06:26 PM Reply With Quote
Ah but is it better to break at the end of your drive or at the end of a run?

I think i'd take end of the drive if the end of the run is south of France!

maybe.

Ask Claire - she's got one and seems to like it so much she's bought a car with one fitted.

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speedyxjs

posted on 24/7/09 at 08:31 PM Reply With Quote
Alfa (should have done a poll )





How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?

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NeilP

posted on 24/7/09 at 08:40 PM Reply With Quote
I might be just a little biased in this

BOA with BOB cams, nice clean air and exhaust, uprated injectors and fuel pressure regulator and an atermarket ECU and you would be well north of 300bhp for notta lotta wonga...





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SPYDER

posted on 24/7/09 at 08:44 PM Reply With Quote
I would choose the Alfa. Out of interest, what gearbox can you mate it to in RWD format?

Claire's V6 is a Mazda, an entirely different kettle of fish. As indeed is Claire.
Geoff.

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owelly

posted on 24/7/09 at 08:59 PM Reply With Quote
Claires V6 is in an Alfa 164 and is an Alfa!!
I would choose and Alfa because I did and it cost me -£8.

[Edited on 24/7/09 by owelly]





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omega0684

posted on 24/7/09 at 09:06 PM Reply With Quote
you are all wrong.....lol, well kinda

claire's fury has a ford probe V6 in it, the ford/ mazda engine.

claire's alfa 164 has the alfa V6 in it



OWELLY where on gods green earth did you get an alfa V6 for £8! u2u me your secrets!

[Edited on 24/7/09 by omega0684]

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owelly

posted on 24/7/09 at 09:16 PM Reply With Quote
A 164 donor car cost us £42 off Ebay. We sold £30 worth of spares and cashed the rest in for £20. The engine cost -£8!!!

Keep looking on Ebay (a search for ALPHA sometimes finds hidden cars!) and also in the local Ad-mag type papers.





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omega0684

posted on 24/7/09 at 09:24 PM Reply With Quote
did you have the engine reconditioned at all?
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jpindy3

posted on 24/7/09 at 09:27 PM Reply With Quote
cossie,so much more reliyable also if you turbo it you can twin turbo it mega power.
but you wont need to do that,
cossie good for 300hp or more

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ss1turbo

posted on 24/7/09 at 09:44 PM Reply With Quote
Normally i'm the Ford camp, but it's no contest..the Alfa V6 has often been called the best sounding engine ever made. Both kick out about 200bhp; lob a Megasquirt on it and thats the remains of the italian electrics removed...leaving just a jewel of an engine.





Long live RWD...

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GrumpyOne

posted on 24/7/09 at 09:58 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NeilP
I might be just a little biased in this

BOA with BOB cams, nice clean air and exhaust, uprated injectors and fuel pressure regulator and an atermarket ECU and you would be well north of 300bhp for notta lotta wonga...


I'm using the V6 BOB engine but I am having serious doubts about it and considering the combination Neil suggests. Spares for the BOB are scarce to say the least and very very expensive if you are lucky enough to find them. If I was you I would go for the BOA BOB combo.

Colin

PS Don't even ask about the gearbox conversion £350 and counting.

[Edited on 24/7/09 by GrumpyOne]





My wife is very understanding, she understands that if I am in the garage I am not in the house annoying her.

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jpindy3

posted on 24/7/09 at 10:01 PM Reply With Quote
the cossie parts carnt be any harder to find than the alfas

[Edited on 24/7/09 by jpindy3]

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jpindy3

posted on 24/7/09 at 10:02 PM Reply With Quote
alex is the pinto getting the boot???
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GrumpyOne

posted on 24/7/09 at 10:04 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jpindy3
the cossie parts carnt be any harder to find than the alfas

[Edited on 24/7/09 by jpindy3]


The timing gear (chain etc) is non existent for the BOB, I have managed to find four of the five parts needed and so far it has cost me nearly £600 and the chain will cost another £250 if I can find one.





My wife is very understanding, she understands that if I am in the garage I am not in the house annoying her.

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SPYDER

posted on 24/7/09 at 10:17 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by owelly
Claires V6 is in an Alfa 164 and is an Alfa!!
I would choose and Alfa because I did and it cost me -£8.

[Edited on 24/7/09 by owelly]


I stand corrected. I was confusing Claire and Clairetoo.
I think.
Sorry.

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omega0684

posted on 24/7/09 at 10:18 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jpindy3
alex is the pinto getting the boot???


no no my friend, i thinking on for project number 2! don't know where im going to build it yet though? i need to convince dad to extend the garage to a double

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ss1turbo

posted on 24/7/09 at 10:27 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GrumpyOne
quote:
Originally posted by jpindy3
the cossie parts carnt be any harder to find than the alfas

[Edited on 24/7/09 by jpindy3]


The timing gear (chain etc) is non existent for the BOB, I have managed to find four of the five parts needed and so far it has cost me nearly £600 and the chain will cost another £250 if I can find one.


Therein lyeth the problem with the "Cosworth" V6 - lack of parts (tuning let alone normal parts). The Alfa V6 has been around since god was in short trousers in one form or another. Whilst the UK may not have agreat deal, I bet Italian ebay will be awash with stuff...

One thing to remember - the Cossie V6 was ONLY used in the Scorpio, whereas the Alfa lump has been used in 15x and 16x Alfas (and older ones like the 90) for a looong time..





Long live RWD...

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