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ettore bugatti

posted on 27/8/14 at 10:40 PM Reply With Quote
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Isn't s Smart Roadster/Coupe not a bit narrower than a Fiesta/Puma?

[Edited on 27/8/14 by ettore bugatti]

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bozla

posted on 27/8/14 at 11:30 PM Reply With Quote
You could try the race kits Falcon - it's a 750 formula car and uses the uprights from the Seicento. The rear end is converted to de-dion though so might not be suitable.

As everyone else is suggesting, I would also go down the mini/metro/mgf route. Here is an interesting link - showing the different lower ball joints for changing the castor angle. http://www.obsessiveperformancedisorder.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=16864&start=60 (about 3/4 down the page).

The only issue with MGF is the odd PCD of the wheels but I don't think it would be a problem getting them re-drilled.

[Edited on 27/8/14 by bozla]

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DW100

posted on 28/8/14 at 09:29 AM Reply With Quote
The MGF basically uses two metro front subframes. The front still has an outer CV joint in but not fitted with the ball bearings cage and drive shaft. I've often looked at them as crying out for a twin engine conversion.

You could use the puma uprights with a mushroom in the top like when Sierra uprights are used on 7s

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scootz

posted on 28/8/14 at 09:41 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ettore bugatti

Isn't s Smart Roadster/Coupe not a bit narrower than a Fiesta/Puma?




There's not a huge deal of difference... I'd already accepted that there will have to be a degree of chopping, joining and extending in any case.

I would have taken a mould off the front of the Puma, but I don't think the front-end is all that pretty. That said, I was wondering last night about cutting the Puma in two just behind the engine bay firewall and seeing if it could be attached to a spaceframe without being floppier than a dead eel. It's worth a look as the shell is just getting weighed in when I've taken out the cars guts. Would be a good bit heavier though.





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bozla

posted on 28/8/14 at 11:29 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DW100
The MGF basically uses two metro front subframes. The front still has an outer CV joint in but not fitted with the ball bearings cage and drive shaft. I've often looked at them as crying out for a twin engine conversion.



That would rule!

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Andy S

posted on 28/8/14 at 11:30 AM Reply With Quote
Ginetta G32 - Mid engine RWD uses the Ford Fiesta MK2 hub and upright at the front. They replaced the drive shaft with a couple of machined spacers and a 1/2" bolt. Upper fitting is an adaptor to fit a ball joint.

Early Tiger Super sixes used the Golf upright and lower wishbone.


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scootz

posted on 28/8/14 at 01:13 PM Reply With Quote
Cheers





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ceebmoj

posted on 28/8/14 at 02:43 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scootz
quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
Metro/MGF?


Hadn't thought of the Metro. Cheers.

MGF? Is that not mid-engined RWD (fixed position uprights)?


same front upright but with a 17 mm bolt (I think) through the drive flange to keep it in the upright. The S1 Elise uses the same bearing, drive flange and bolt in a alloy machined upright.

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ceebmoj

posted on 28/8/14 at 02:46 PM Reply With Quote
Scootz Did you get any where with the red RX8 you purchased for a project?

[Edited on 28/8/14 by ceebmoj]

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scootz

posted on 28/8/14 at 08:26 PM Reply With Quote
Gutted it and scrapped the shell.

Mulled over the engine and gearbox for a while, but decided it was going to cost too much to do it right.

Chopped it in recently and got my money back (for a change!).





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