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Slater

posted on 12/5/16 at 07:27 AM Reply With Quote
When will someone invent......

A button on your TV remote that automatically fast forwards through the adverts and stops just at the right place, when watching recorded TV programs.

Surely it can't be that difficult?

I realise that Sky won't want to do this as they get revenue from the ad makers, but maybe someone can come up with an separate aftermarket remote that can do this?





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Quinten

posted on 12/5/16 at 07:45 AM Reply With Quote
Some channels have a 'fixed' time of commercials, but it's not the same between different channels iyswim. My remote allows me to skip 10s, 60s or 5m with one button press. For instance the F1 on C4 now takes 4x the 60s button to go exactly from the beginning to the end of the commercials...

But yeah, wouldn't it be nice...






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britishtrident

posted on 12/5/16 at 07:51 AM Reply With Quote
You still watch live TV ---- thesedays we rarely do and when we do it is usually the Beeb.

Last night watched Bridge of Spies ---- absolutely brilliant.





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loggyboy

posted on 12/5/16 at 07:54 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
You still watch live TV ---- thesedays we rarely do and when we do it is usually the Beeb.



Obviously he isnt or he wouldnt be able to fast forward the ads.





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Smoking Frog

posted on 12/5/16 at 08:02 AM Reply With Quote
Yes, it is a pain, but at least you can fast forward through them when they're recorded. If you can watch on catch-up (virgin media), no ads.
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nick205

posted on 12/5/16 at 08:04 AM Reply With Quote
Revenue is the key to this - as long as there's revenue to be made then why would they let you skip them.

Adverts for sh1te I don't want annoy me at the best of times - I find riding my turbo trainer in the garage with Spotify playing a far better option. I will admit to subscribing at £10/month to get add free Spotify, but £120.00/year seems reasonable to me given I used to spend more than that on CDs.






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MikeRJ

posted on 12/5/16 at 08:04 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Slater
A button on your TV remote that automatically fast forwards through the adverts and stops just at the right place, when watching recorded TV programs.

Surely it can't be that difficult?



If it's difficult for a human to do then it will be even more difficult to automate it. Problem is that they keep changing the screen that gets shown before the next section starts, and on some channels they don't show a lead in screen at all, it's just adverts then straight into your program.

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gaz_gaz

posted on 12/5/16 at 09:20 AM Reply With Quote
First world problems
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Neville Jones

posted on 12/5/16 at 09:22 AM Reply With Quote
I want a setting on the TV that mutes the ads automatically. Why do the have to be twice as loud as the program they are in the middle of? They're allowed to be as loud as the loudest bit in the program, and I reckon the show makers put in one loud bite just for this prpose.

[Edited on 12/5/16 by Neville Jones]

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hughpinder

posted on 12/5/16 at 09:51 AM Reply With Quote
About 12 years ago I actually had a panasonic that could do that if you edited the the recorded program, but the feature was removed (I believe there is some signal embedded that says when the ads start and stop), but the automatic 'remove ads' would still leave a few seconds of them at the start and end of each break. It seemed to disappear for the next version, I suspect a lot of pressure was put on them by the TV companies - I can imagine the firms paying for adverts were pretty unhappy that they could be easily removed, and the TV companies could just refuse to air panasonic ads themselves.
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Slimy38

posted on 12/5/16 at 09:52 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Neville Jones
I want a setting on the TV that mutes the ads automatically. Why do the have to be twice as loud as the program they are in the middle of? They're allowed to be as loud as the loudest bit in the program, and I reckon the show makers put in one loud bite just for this prpose.

[Edited on 12/5/16 by Neville Jones]


You can complain about this to the authority, they do listen. I complained about advert volume on Syfy, they responded in 48 hours with a series of questions which were fairly simply to answer. Mainly around highlighting a particular example at a particular time and day (wasn't difficult!). About a week later we noticed a drop in volume.

This is a very old story relating to it;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7388473.stm

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Ugg10

posted on 12/5/16 at 10:55 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nick205
Revenue is the key to this - as long as there's revenue to be made then why would they let you skip them.

Adverts for sh1te I don't want annoy me at the best of times - I find riding my turbo trainer in the garage with Spotify playing a far better option. I will admit to subscribing at £10/month to get add free Spotify, but £120.00/year seems reasonable to me given I used to spend more than that on CDs.


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As for the recording, IIRC the old VHS systems used the little black and white striped box in the top right corner that is used by the local ITV companies to deliver local ads and appears a minute or so before the adds come on. As has already said, not beyond the wit of man but commercial pressure will outweigh this.





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SteveWalker

posted on 12/5/16 at 11:41 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
quote:
Originally posted by Slater
A button on your TV remote that automatically fast forwards through the adverts and stops just at the right place, when watching recorded TV programs.

Surely it can't be that difficult?



If it's difficult for a human to do then it will be even more difficult to automate it. Problem is that they keep changing the screen that gets shown before the next section starts, and on some channels they don't show a lead in screen at all, it's just adverts then straight into your program.


It's actually very easy to automate for most channels. They virtually all display a channel logo in one corner. A simple bit of software can look for a fixed image to detect the logo and then monitor it. Every time it disappears, the ads are on. As soon as it re-appears, the programme is back on. There was a circuit and software to do this in one of the electronics mags some years back.

There was also a commercial VHS recorder in the USA that did something similar. The TV companies tried to get it banned, but I don't think they succeeded.

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fossett

posted on 12/5/16 at 11:42 AM Reply With Quote
TiVo SkipMode
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owelly

posted on 12/5/16 at 02:11 PM Reply With Quote
I find the adverts are better than the actual programmes.....





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David Jenkins

posted on 12/5/16 at 02:54 PM Reply With Quote
Some of the 'cheap channels' are getting really bad for ads - I see something listed that may be interesting, select the channel and then watch ads for the next 5 or more minutes. By the end I can't remember what it was I was planning to watch. This is on channels like Yesterday. Sometimes an ad break comes up so I decide to make a coffee - this is the full cafetiere experience - and the ads are still running when I get back in front of the TV.

Also, the programmes are getting hacked about. My wife has always liked watching Ground Force; on the BBC this used to be a 1 hour programme, but on the Home channel it's been cut to fit a 30-minute slot, and that's including about 10 minutes of ads. So a 55-minute show has been cut to about 20 minutes - no wonder it doesn't hang together at all.

As you may guess - I hate adverts...






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