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Won’t go in gear
swanny - 23/7/18 at 06:37 PM

Hello all

Car ran fine last time out but went to start it this morning. Put it in reverse and it lurched back and died. Restarted it then couldn’t get it in gear, any gear at all. Clutch pedal feels normal.

Any ideas ? Other than clutch is knackered :-(

Car is a rover v8 with an lt77 gearbox

Paul


tims31 - 23/7/18 at 07:10 PM

Is it hydraulic clutch or cable, does sound like the clutch is not disengaging.


rusty nuts - 23/7/18 at 07:52 PM

Had the same problem on my car, I took the engine out on Friday and found the spigot bearing had siezed to the first motion shaft , had to use an angle grinder to get it off fortunately it hadn't caused any damage . Managed to get a new bearing on Saturday morning and get the car back together. My clutch pedal also felt fine when it had the problem, . Possibly the same fault on yours or maybe a faulty clutch assembly? Doesn't sound like hydraulics.


adithorp - 23/7/18 at 08:56 PM

Was going to say spigot shaft bearing.


cliftyhanger - 24/7/18 at 07:50 AM

will it go into gear with the engine off?
if yes it will be clutch. If not, a gearbox issue....


gremlin1234 - 24/7/18 at 10:48 AM

a quick search found it may be a problem with a 'grub screw' attaching the remote (gearstick) assembly

http://www.gomog.com/allmorgan/remoteissues.html


swanny - 24/7/18 at 10:58 AM

quote:
Originally posted by cliftyhanger
will it go into gear with the engine off?
if yes it will be clutch. If not, a gearbox issue....


just nipped back and tried it. goes in gear fine when engine off.

thanks for all the help

Paul


swanny - 24/7/18 at 11:01 AM

quote:
Originally posted by gremlin1234
a quick search found it may be a problem with a 'grub screw' attaching the remote (gearstick) assembly

http://www.gomog.com/allmorgan/remoteissues.html


this would be good, as it would avoid a big job. will take a look
thanks

[Edited on 24/7/18 by swanny]


adithorp - 24/7/18 at 11:28 AM

quote:
Originally posted by cliftyhanger
will it go into gear with the engine off?
if yes it will be clutch. If not, a gearbox issue....


Spigot bearing failure/collapse would be the same.


britishtrident - 25/7/18 at 08:20 AM

Why do newbies always look for complicated causes?
This a very common issue on any car that has been laid up for months : the clutch driven plate is stuck to the flywheel.


swanny - 25/7/18 at 08:33 AM

quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
Why do newbies always look for complicated causes?
This a very common issue on any car that has been laid up for months : the clutch driven plate is stuck to the flywheel.


true. but this car was last driven a week ago


rusty nuts - 25/7/18 at 06:12 PM

Have you tried starting it in gear? Make sure you have plenty of room just in case


swanny - 26/7/18 at 01:33 PM

i did think about this. having had a go yet. do you think there is a chance that might free it up?


rusty nuts - 26/7/18 at 05:36 PM

If it's a stuck clutch plate it might but if it's a spigot bearing then no.


mark chandler - 26/7/18 at 11:03 PM

LT77 on to RV8, I have a vague memory that engines with auto boxes had a steel bush in the crank, you need to remove this and fit a phosphor bronze or needle bearing in its place or after a while it will weld itself up.

Was the engine originally auto and now backed onto a manual box?

[Edited on 26/7/18 by mark chandler]


gremlin1234 - 27/7/18 at 12:02 AM

quote:
Originally posted by mark chandler
LT77 on to RV8, I have a vague memory that engines with auto boxes had a steel bush in the crank, you need to remove this and fit a phosphor bronze or needle bearing in its place or after a while it will weld itself up.

Was the engine originally auto and now backed onto a manual box?

[Edited on 26/7/18 by mark chandler]
would that be the above mentioned spigot baring?


mark chandler - 27/7/18 at 06:00 AM

Yes, bush in the back of the crank is the spigot bearing


rusty nuts - 21/8/18 at 04:40 PM

Any news yet? I doubt very much it's a stuck clutch plate as you managed to get it into gear before it lurched and stopped