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Wenney

posted on 5/10/14 at 06:32 PM Reply With Quote
zeetec or pinto ?

Hi guys I have just started to plan my Haynes roadster build ,I plan to build the chassis my self to help keep the cost down but the main problem I have is I don't no which engine to go for . The pinto seems a good solid engine which would bolt straight on to the type 9 sierra gear box but is a bit on the heavy side . The zeetec pre 95 in my mind is a more complex engine to work on but maybe a tad more revy if I go for the zeetec do I need to change the bell housing on the type 9 gearbox if so which bell housing would I need and are there any other mods would I need to do .
Hope someone out there can help as I want to plan as many thing as I can before starting the car as I hope this will cut down on problem later on . :-)

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big_wasa

posted on 5/10/14 at 06:58 PM Reply With Quote
The difference is an old and a very old engine

Don't get me wrong I love the zetec and I am playing with one at the moment by adding a turbo.

Zetec bolts straight onto a t9

Zetec is very very easy to work on.

Pre aug 95 zetec is hard to come by.

My advice get the best engine you can afford and fit a cat for iva.

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ianm67

posted on 5/10/14 at 07:00 PM Reply With Quote
Wenney,

Zetec, Zetec, Zetec.......... Easier to find a decent engine at a reasonable price, Pinto motors are getting hard to find and are becoming quite expensive. The Zetec can be used with the type 9 and no need to change the bellhousing. If you run the Zetec on carbs, buy your self a Megajolt (or similar ECU) and away you go. More power than the Pinto even in standard trim.
You'll need to get the right combination of clutch, release bearing and starter motor (LOADS of info on this forum) but its all standard stuff from the parts bin that you'll be able to buy pretty much anywhere.





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SylvaJ15-02

posted on 5/10/14 at 07:00 PM Reply With Quote
I'd go for the 2Lsilver top zetec over a pinto every time.
I'ts heaps better bang/buck when you add bike carbs and something link megajolt ignition (160-165 bhp with no other mods)
The zetec bolts straight onto a type 9 box.
Use a flywheel, sump, oil pickup and water pump from an 1,800 zetec that came from an escort
starter motor comes from a CVH Sierra (bolt straight on)
If the 2L came from an automatic, you'll need the crank pickup mounting from a manual gearbox version

This conversion has been done loads of time before so lots of info around

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Wenney

posted on 5/10/14 at 07:16 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks guys it looks like the zeetec is the way to go then which CC would be best to go for I want to use the roadster a s road car but want to do track days and may be sprints as well
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snapper

posted on 5/10/14 at 07:25 PM Reply With Quote
Pinto & Zetec have same Bellhousing bolt pattern so no issues
Except Zetec sump needs modifying to except type 9 starter
Exhaust is on different side
I would go for early Pinto for emmisions then what ever you put in after registration will only need to achieve the original emmisions requirement





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posted on 5/10/14 at 07:28 PM Reply With Quote
If you decide pinto, I've got a 2.0 205 block complete engine with a clutch alternator and starter motor already sitting in a pallett ready to go. 350 + delivery.oh, and it's got an EFI fuel rail too.
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baz-R

posted on 5/10/14 at 08:14 PM Reply With Quote
zetec anyday

pinto's are very old hat and only very late engines will be unleaded where as all zetecs are unleaded.

if you realy want to find a cat free unit for iva then early 1.8's from fiestas and escorts are more availble then you could have a stright swap

rwd conversions are simple and there are more than one way to do it.

you need to step back the tube 25-30mm above the belhousing then you can keep the ford thermostat housing thats a good idea

i know this i built a zetec roadster

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AvonJas

posted on 5/10/14 at 08:43 PM Reply With Quote
Hi, if its what your after, i have a rebuilt Feb 92 zetec . Its a 1,800 but fitted with 2,000 cams,ARP bolts, complete with modified sump, flywheel, clutch, starter motor, coil and leads.
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Andy S

posted on 5/10/14 at 10:40 PM Reply With Quote
Why bother with the Ford Pinto/Zetec it makes no sense these days with MX5 drivetrains so abundant






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mcerd1

posted on 6/10/14 at 08:29 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wenney
if I go for the zeetec do I need to change the bell housing on the type 9 gearbox


it might be worth mentioning that - the zetec's everyone is talking about are the 1.8 and 2.0 versions [AKA: the 'Zetec E' or Zeta engines]

the smaller 1.25/1.4/1.6/1.7 zetec is a totally different animal [AKA: the 'Zetec SE' or Sigma engine] they only shares a name with the 1.8/2.0 ones - these are the ones you get special aftermarket bellhousings for...


its also worth mentioning that the std. type 9 boxes typically come with either 4cly bellhousings or V6 bellhousings
the 4cly ones come on pinto's and CVH's and these one fit the Zetec E's (these have the short input shaft on the box)
the V6 ones come on the 2.8 / 2.9 Cologne V6 engines and that's all they fit... (these have the long input shaft on the box)





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