alfas
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| posted on 27/3/16 at 09:10 AM |
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Ford 4-speed box, how to recognize straight cut or not?
i have no history of my recently purchased sylva, besides it was built begining 90ies & solely used for racing for about 3 years, than put into
storage. so the car has practically no mileage.
ford x/flow engine with 4-sped box.
the box has an alloy bellhousing, so its a 4-speed box with removeable / separate bellhousing.
from the gearstick-travel it feels like a very precise quickshift, but the gearlever looks like the standard ford-lever with plastic pivot point.
when i first drove the car i was a bit shocked about the noise:
1st , 2nd, 3rd gear are wining like a helicopter, in 4th the box is quiet.
does the wining mean:
1. box is shot
2. box has straight cut gears fitted
have not changed nor checked oil yet.
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theduck
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| posted on 27/3/16 at 09:13 AM |
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Take the top off and have a look?
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alfas
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| posted on 27/3/16 at 09:25 AM |
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ok...thats what i wanted to do anyway for checking oil-level and improve breathing.
as the box is rather far inside the tunnel can i see the gears straight away?
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DW100
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| posted on 27/3/16 at 10:15 AM |
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Yeah if you have access and can take the top off the gears are right in front of you.
You used to be able to get a quick shift kit that used a screw on spacer under the gear lever and retained the standard Ford gear lever. All you were
doing was moving the pivot point and changing the leverage.
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mark chandler
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| posted on 27/3/16 at 10:30 AM |
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4th straight through so will be quiet in any case.
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JacksAvon
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| posted on 27/3/16 at 10:34 AM |
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Should look like the attached...................
http://www.burtonpower.com/quaife-4-speed-gear-kit-2000e-bullet-dog-engagement-qua4bde.html
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FuryRebuild
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| posted on 27/3/16 at 10:48 AM |
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I have a 4 speed with quaife internals, and it is exactly as you describe. Loud in 1-3 and quiet in 4. If you take the lid off you can see the
straight cut gears.
When all you have is a hammer, everything around you is a nail.
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alfas
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| posted on 27/3/16 at 01:46 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by DW100
You used to be able to get a quick shift kit that used a screw on spacer under the gear lever and retained the standard Ford gear lever. All you were
doing was moving the pivot point and changing the leverage.
i know that....but the lever is un-modified, even gearchange is like the typical quickshift....so thats another unusual feature on that box.
[Edited on 27/3/16 by alfas]
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DW100
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| posted on 27/3/16 at 02:48 PM |
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quote:
i know that....but the lever is un-modified, even gearchange is like the typical quickshift....so thats another unusual feature on that box.
Not got a kit like this under the standard lever?
http://www.burtonpower.com/quickshift-kit-type-e-4-speed-rocket-gearbox-qs01k.html
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alfas
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| posted on 27/3/16 at 05:12 PM |
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nope
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britishtrident
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| posted on 27/3/16 at 05:34 PM |
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If you take the lid off a Cortina MK2 2000e style box the detent springs and balls are liable to go awol.
These boxes come in 2 basic casing types -- either with a bolt on remote (really an evolution of the 105e Anglia box) or the later built in remote
also used in the MK1 Mexico
The lever on both of these types felt a lot more precise than the Sierra goobox.
[Edited on 27/3/16 by britishtrident]
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alfas
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| posted on 27/3/16 at 05:46 PM |
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the one you are refering to is:
the one fitted to my car is:
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alfas
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| posted on 28/3/16 at 02:35 PM |
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ok...toda i removed the cover...below 2 pictures what i found (can anybody indetify what is written on the cover?)
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Brian R
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| posted on 28/3/16 at 05:41 PM |
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Single rail Type E 4 speed with a straight cut gearset. Not sure what the writing is on the cover though.
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alfas
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| posted on 28/3/16 at 06:32 PM |
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perfect---thanks for the reply....straight cut....wow...quite happy....
watchign the pic closer, concerns me a bit:
the rear gear seems to have a strange shape, looks like a "valley" in the centre...is this wear or is the gear shaped like that?
[Edited on 28/3/16 by alfas]
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Brian R
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| posted on 28/3/16 at 09:28 PM |
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Designed like that I believe so the selector mechanism clears the gear.
One mod we would do to the race cars would be to wire lock the roll pin in the selector quadrant. (The pear shaped part in your photo.) Put a couple
of turns of locking wire through the pin and twist the ends together. Make sure it doesn't foul on anything or hamper the gear selection
operation.
These roll pins have been known to break with shall we say "ambitious shifting" and the wire stops the bits falling into the gearbox.
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alfas
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| posted on 29/3/16 at 03:26 PM |
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another good news!!!! perfect!!
i´ll try getting access to wire the pin...not easy i guess, as gearbox sits very far inside the car....
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