Dominic
Flicking through kit mags in the newsagent, saw a photo of a middie, which I think they said was a lotus replica..
Lotus 21? 23? anyone know the kit? any opinions?
Probably a Lotus 23. Xanthos Cars make a 23 replica, although I'm none too sure about the god awful
full height screen
Dominic
I saw a 23 at Shelsley Walsh last year and was smitten.
There's a company in Bilston (nr. Wolverhampton) that make replicas (opposite the "Foxy Lady" cinema. Mmmmm salubrious)
I can't get at their website from here, (firewall restrictions in a secondary school), but I think it's
http://www.martyni23.freeuk.com/
Cheers,
Neil.
Hey guys,
well i guess this is my first post on this forum, but anyway. i have a friend who owns a restoration shop and he owns a freshly restored lotus 23C.
you can see pics of it here if you like.
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Originally posted by sean951
Hey guys,
well i guess this is my first post on this forum, but anyway. i have a friend who owns a restoration shop and he owns a freshly restored lotus 23C. you can see pics of it here if you like.
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Looks pretty "butch" with those fender flares, I'm guessing those were a racing mod, no?
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think they give the car an agressive look. trust me, when you hear that 200hp lotus twin cam bark into life, you forget all about those dodgy fender
flares I don't think that tires of that width were originally used on any of the Lotus-engined 23 series cars. This museum-kept 23C shows the
"normal" type-23 body:
http://www.utahlotusmuseum.com/id106.htm
I'll check my "Lotus Sports Racers, a Brooklands Portfolio" book tonight to make sure, but I don't believe that any of the
Lotus-engined 23 series originally received flares for wide tires -- there was no need. Of course, I suppose a person could do whatever he or she
wanted with one after they ordered it, so they might be "original" from the standpoint that the modification is vintage. Either way,
that's a very nice car!
-Winston
[Edited on 4/5/2004 by Winston]
[Edited on 4/5/2004 by Winston]
Has anyone heard of/mentioned the Noble M12? It is a kit/roller that is supposed to be faster than an enzo on the race track according to their
website http://www.1gracing.com
They have a video section also. It's got very ricey taste in the design, but still very good looking IMO.
I didn't want to start up a whole thread over this.
It's nice looking (minus the fin), right up there with the Ultima. At $70-80K for either, that's a lot for something you screw together.
While it is a super car, and costs nearly as much as one, I just don't see how an owner expects to impress people when he tell's them
it's a kit. Or maybe the owner doesn't care what others think.
I guess I'm a bit mystified about how many people there are who can drop that much money for something, *and* have the skills, time, and patience
to put it together, but that's just me.
Agreed....and as much as I like the Noble, I can't see it's jusification in being featured in kit car.....
Still it's a change from the ENDLESS display of Cobras.......
To the best of my knowledge, you can't buy a new Noble in kit form anymore. The last Noble in that form was sold to the the gentleman who does
their trimming, and very nice it is too.
I think the M12/GTO deserved it's recent makeover, but I also think it deserved better still. But you know I'm a cantankerous old
curmudgeon when it comes to styling.
Still working on middie concepts, for those wondering where I'd got to. Too busy debugging DB9s. Any jokes Clarkson makes about 'Brighton
not being in France' are not down to me. The guy who is responsible for making DB9s satnav system work is a cretin.
M.
[Edited on 14/4/04 by GTAddict]
Maybee it's me but I cant even see spending 20k on buying a kit car. If you want a kit car that bad, they are fairly cheap. I know that the more the company spends on tooling the better quality the final product. I just cant see spending that much on a Kit. Maybee 2-3x the total cost of the kit on modifications over the next few years, but thats another story.
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Originally posted by derf
Maybee it's me but I cant even see spending 20k on buying a kit car.
The NSX is a great car, of all the cars I have ever driven, it is the best handling, a little underpowered at 270 whp (IMHO, I believe it needs around
500) It does accelerate nice, drives great, feels beautiful. But your right for $30k you can get one of those used. Or for around $2000 you can find a
golf III, rebuild the engine and suspension, and have one of the best handling cars evar (again IMHO).
I dont see a kit car being worth anything. Plus when a car is just a bolt together affair, where is the fun in that. I kinda like the idea of having
to design my own car. I know some of you guys (Mr Meerkat, Mr grabber, and you Mr mini) have designed truly from the ground up, but I am more happy
with designing things like the suspension and motor mounts etc... especially with a good frame design already in place. Plus this Locost will cost a
fraction of what the GBTSQRWHYDIDIFORGET THENAME car costs for just the kit.
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Originally posted by GTAddict
To the best of my knowledge, you can't buy a new Noble in kit form anymore........
At least the Noble M12 has some styling cues worth looking at. It has an aggressive look. All middies can be made to look good, but this one sticks out positively (except for that gaudy wing).
Lee Noble is a genius...
Not that I'm biased, but he was involved in the original Midtec. a derivative of which I'm bulding.
john