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Can escort front hubs be used?
luke - 21/2/09 at 09:23 PM

Ive just bid and won a pair of front Escort hubs on ebay. To then go and realise it says cortina hubs in the book

So can i use these? what works involved?

Tried a search but no clear answer.

luke


RichieW - 21/2/09 at 09:29 PM

I don't think they are a direct replacement because Rally Design sell both Escort hubs and Cortina hubs so there must be some differences. Couldn't tell you what though. Best stick them back up on the 'bay and get your money back.

Is it just the hubs your bought or the upright too? The the Escort uses a McPherson strut which the hub bolts onto and the Cortina uses wishbones with a King Pin arrangement that the hub bolts onto.

The Ron Champion book isn't very clear cos it talks about hubs but the crucial parts are the uprights with the king pin.

[Edited on 21/2/09 by RichieW]


luke - 21/2/09 at 10:41 PM

this is what i bought.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=320340486130

full hubs and struts.


RichieW - 21/2/09 at 10:54 PM

Luke, I think you are going to have trouble matching those to a standard Locost build. Not sure where the standard wishbones are going to join up with those....

Sorry.


luke - 21/2/09 at 10:55 PM

dang! oh well they will go back on ebay.

just thought they were a bargain and close to me too!


RichieW - 21/2/09 at 11:32 PM

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Thats what you are are after. The pictures show the cortina upright painted in matt black in the bottom picture. Its got the brake disc attached to it and then the actual hub is the bit the four wheel studs are attached to. The steering arm is pointing at six o'clock and the wishbones attach at 3 and nine o'clock in the picture. The upright is on its side in the bottom picture but you get the idea.


luke - 21/2/09 at 11:49 PM

brill! ta for the pics!

i will see what these look like when i pick them up.


RichieW - 22/2/09 at 12:08 AM

Yeah those Escort ones will be no good at all for your needs. Its a totally different engineering solution and they attach to the car chassis/subframe in very different ways. You should get your money back though if you stick them back on ebay. If you do a search on the net or have some old haynes manuals to hand you can see how the wishbone arrangement of the mark 3/4/5 Cortina compares to the Mcpherson strut of the mark 2 Escort. They are very different.


speedyxjs - 22/2/09 at 07:49 AM

They can be fitted. I am using Jag hubs on mine. Just takes a little engineering.


Peteff - 22/2/09 at 09:48 AM

Didn't Strikers use cut down Capri and Escort struts for front uprights? They took the insert out and cut the casing down to take a weld in adaptor like the bolt in one on the Sierra set up.


LancasterBob - 22/2/09 at 10:49 AM

Fury's (and i guess strikers?) originally used chopped-down escort struts with a tappered bush welded into the remaining tube top. Allegedly these are lighter than the sierra option which is common now that escort struts are getting rare.
Depending on how easy cortina uprights are to find you could use the fury approach with these? Not sure what you would use for an upper ball joint, fury's are chevette.
If you do flog em you won't struggle to get your money back.


James - 22/2/09 at 11:28 AM

Even if you don't get any money back, it's only 25 quid. In the grand scheme of the £5k you're gonna spend on the build it's not worth going to the extra effort/pain/expense of deviating from standard and then coping with/sorting out any potential handling issues that crop up through messing with the black art of suspension!

Stick with Cortina and make your life easy!

Cheers,
James


luke - 23/2/09 at 08:57 AM

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Originally posted by James
Even if you don't get any money back, it's only 25 quid. In the grand scheme of the £5k you're gonna spend on the build it's not worth going to the extra effort/pain/expense of deviating from standard and then coping with/sorting out any potential handling issues that crop up through messing with the black art of suspension!

Stick with Cortina and make your life easy!

Cheers,
James


Exactly my kind of thinking!

Ill see what they are like when i pick them up and then decide. Probably just throw them back up on ebay.