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andyw7de - 11/2/10 at 04:46 PM

Ive been playing about with the waterjet trying to make a new pedal assembly for the car. I thought i would get some feedback as to whether Im barking up the wrong tree.

Bearing in mind this is in development and will be fitted with twin brake cylinders and a bias bar.

So its not a finished artical.

I will be folding the back plate (rather than welded) after cutting all the holes for the brakes etc. back plate will then be powder coated and the pedals will be silver annodised. the padal plates will have grip tape to finish


Bluemoon - 11/2/10 at 04:51 PM

I would be worried about fatigue on the brake peddle, not sure how I would address this (FE analysis is not simple to do or interpret correctly so this is not a good solution unless you are an expert) . You design looks much more substantial than some. Snag is if the peddle cracks you will know only when you stamp on the peddle and it's all to late. Steel may be better from a DIY approach for the brake peddle, or copy an existing design.

Dan


TimC - 11/2/10 at 04:51 PM

Flash G*t!

Have you done some research on ratios?

Look superb though!


flak monkey - 11/2/10 at 04:53 PM

Looks good to me Pedal ratio might be a bit high though looking at the brake pedal?

Fatigue may be a problem, but it usually takes 100,000s of cycles, depeding on the loads and alloy you are using.


andyw7de - 11/2/10 at 04:55 PM

quote:
Originally posted by TimC
Flash G*t!

Have you done some research on ratios?

Look superb though!


The Ratio's are the same as the standard haynes pedals so Im hoping should be OK


StevieB - 11/2/10 at 04:56 PM

As someone who had been looking for a twin m/c replacement solution for my Indy, that would be something I'd go for (price dependent of course).

Even more so if you have a neat solution for clutch and throttle cables...


blakep82 - 11/2/10 at 04:58 PM

Wow!

as a complete non expert, with alloy that thickness, i wouldn't think fatigue would be an issue for a very long time


Dan. - 11/2/10 at 04:59 PM

I like them


andyw7de - 11/2/10 at 05:07 PM

Pedals are cut fro 25mm thick 6082 T6 grade alloy so should be pretty strong and durable.

Anyway brakes are over rated as stopping equipment, i should know Ive seen enough gravel traps

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Mike S - 11/2/10 at 05:24 PM

They look nice.

Made my own alloy clutch pedel as it was for a bike engine, so very light.


Mike


http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/photos.php?action=showphoto&photo=Clutch (800 x 600).jpg
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[Edited on 11/2/10 by Mike S]


steve m - 11/2/10 at 07:11 PM

Must agree, they do look very nice

And light


SPYDER - 11/2/10 at 09:12 PM

Well done sir!!
The brake pedal looks perfectly strong enough to me and as already suggested, fatigue should not be an issue for a long, long time, given the material spec.
We opted for a "hatch" design on our CNC produced alloy pedals rather than grip tape.
Our pedal ratio looks weird too, but it's standard geometry for a Phoenix.
Do you have to finish machine the balance bar bore or is water jet accurate enough on its own?
Ours have press fit steel bushes for the bias bar bore and the pivots.
I would leave the throttle pedal smooth, no tape, and maybe make it a little narrower.
We are often asked if we could supply a set of pedals like ours, but we made them as one-offs and I deleted the programmes as I went along..
If you could produce sets to sell, I think you may well find a few customers.
Alloy pedals, don't ya just love 'em?
Geoff.

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andyw7de - 11/2/10 at 11:36 PM

Hi Spyder,

I will be fitting a steel insert for the balance bar when it arrives. The pivot points will have sleeved Nylon inserts.

I have fitted M6 male rose joints into the bottom of the clutch and accel pedals to allow secure fixing of cables. Not difficult to make a hydraulic clutch pedal either.

These pedals have been designed so that they can be fitted to a virtually standard haynes pedal box.

I will make a narrower accelerator and polish it up before annodising.

Happy to make as many sets as can be sold, so when completely developed i will cost up self assembly kits.

If I only supply the pedals and support frame then I cant see it being that expensive ,

Ill keep updating with development progress

Thanks for all the comments they are much appreciated

cheers

Andy