Is the type 9 gearbox bellhousing and input shaft the same on a diesel Sierra as it is on a petrol one?

If anybody knows for sure and can give a quick reply it would be great as I've got one waiting for me at the scrappy.

David

I think it depends on the diesel engine. If its the 2.3 i might not be as that was i think from peugeot. If its the 1.8 diesel then should be the same.

the only issue is the ratio's. Some diesel boxes (this is a covering statement as i'm not sure if its all) use lower ratio's than normal.

unless I am very much mistaken diesel Sierras used a Puegeot engine that had a different bell housing bolt patten to a pinto or xflow.

Thanks guys, looks like I'll be shopping elsewhere then as I'm upgreding to 5 speed. Got the Sierra on its side and thought the bellhousing looked strange. Did a search and it appears it's probably got a longer input shaft too.

Thanks again,

David

Regarding the input shaft,you either get it machined...9 inch angle grinder!...or purchase a spacer from GHB or Burtons.

Definately something about the input shaft length, we had a P100 pickup years ago at work & when the box went we found out about it the hard way. Could'nt get a S/H one so ended up fixing it.

The diesel p100's have longer bell housing and input shaft. Sierra cars have normal type 9's.

The Deisel cars have the long input shaft the same as the XR4i as used in Caterhams. Placing the lever about an inch further back.
Cheers John

the diesel one i broke also had a completely different bolt pattern onto the engine, it had a single bolt at the top rather than two. That was a 2.3d IIRC. When i bust the gearbox it was a bugger finding the right replacement.

Some of the later sierra's had 1.8D or TD's
the 1.8 is the same engine as in the later FWD cars (Mondeo, Escort, Focus)

but the only way I could find out the differences (if any) between a 1.8D and a petrol would be to dismantle the guy next doors 1.8D Sierra (and he might not be to chuffed)

The diesel type 9 box has exactly the same bolt fixings as the petrol type 9 fitted to the V6, it won't go on the 2ltr, etc, starter motor is, (I think), in the wrong place, plus the input shaft is 1 1/4" longer. Another thing is that most diesel box's have a VERY hard life, and are second cousin to totaly f****d. BUT the most important thing is that the gear ratio's are crap!!! Be advised, stear well clear. HTH Ray