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Engine Number Help!
Gareth - 23/6/03 at 02:27 PM

Help!
Bought a new old stock engine that was no longer required, found that no engine number was stamped on this engine, although a engine number code sticker is.
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Sent a letter to Ford Technical Information Centre, who report that they can not help if a engine number is not stamped on the engine. Passed to Ford Parts Distribution Centre who in turn passed me to the Ford Customer Relationship Centre who sent me a nice letter stating the time and day the engine was produced, but were unable to provide a engine number. Passed to the local dealer (why?) who confirmed that replacement and new engines are shiped without engine stamps, but could not help apart from this.
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What do I do now????


ned - 23/6/03 at 03:12 PM

make one up?
borrow one from a dead engine/scrapped car?
use the one on the sticker?

if there is a number on the sticker i'd use that, failing that use one from a dead engne in a scrappy and say it was rec'd or something, tell the dvla and change the registration document or whatever and voila.

Ned.


Gareth - 23/6/03 at 03:38 PM

Called Ford again and asked to speak to the section manager, he suggested to contact the DVLA and get them to issue one.
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Sounds unlikely to me?


Gareth - 23/6/03 at 03:58 PM

DVLA report that as long as I have information on the age of the engine, not to worry about a engine number as this is not requred to register the car, and to just leave this blank on all paperwork.
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I do wonder if this is going to cause problems, I may enter the bar code number and see if this works.
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any one got a simular experiance?


Mark Allanson - 23/6/03 at 06:26 PM

Ford engine numbers are always the last seven digits of the original cars chassis number, the first two letters give the month and year of manufacture, If you still have the donor, just stamp these on the engine, no risk because the original engine would have been replaced with the current one and will probably be coat hangers by now.


Peteff - 23/6/03 at 07:08 PM

Stamp a 1 on it and tell them it's the first one ever made, your own design and all the parts are home made like the rest of the car. Or make your own up as long as it's original. The letter from Ford should cover you for identification.

yours, Pete.


paulf - 24/6/03 at 09:00 PM

My escort doner V5 had no engine number when I first got it, it just said not disclosed in the box. I added the engine number to it and sent it away and it came back in a couple of weks with the number on it.As it is a 1968 logbook I am hoping the SVA will take the logbook as proof of engine age, or do I need a letter from ford as well?
Paul.

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Originally posted by Gareth
DVLA report that as long as I have information on the age of the engine, not to worry about a engine number as this is not requred to register the car, and to just leave this blank on all paperwork.
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I do wonder if this is going to cause problems, I may enter the bar code number and see if this works.
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any one got a simular experiance?


Rob Lane - 25/6/03 at 09:11 AM

You can stamp on your own engine number. Make it a combination of letters plus numbers. Such as 'RJL45678'

Many engine reconditioners when accepting exchange engines ( rather than a customer engine rebuild, where they return it ) will grind off original number and stamp a new number elsewhere on the block. Helps them for warranty claims and is accepted by DVLA.

Incidently you can also stamp on a chassis number of your choice to register the vehicle but it's probably best to allow local register office to issue you with one.


Gareth - 25/6/03 at 11:59 AM

Cheers Rob


Mark H - 25/6/03 at 12:08 PM

When you are happily stamping letters and numbers on your case, remember that the first two letters are a date code. This needs to be an "older" date so they dont say, "oh, its a 1999 engine" and then fail you on not having a cat fitted.

The list of dates is elsewhere on this site. Have a search around before making one up!


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Incidently you can also stamp on a chassis number of your choice to register the vehicle but it's probably best to allow local register office to issue you with one.



You are opening up a right can of worms here!! As discussed elsewhere on this forum, it seems to depend on where you live. In Leeds they were quite happy to take my made up number, as long as it has the correct amount of characters.


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DVLA report that as long as I have information on the age of the engine, not to worry about a engine number as this is not requred to register the car, and to just leave this blank on all paperwork.



This is ok for DVLA registration, but you have to get through the SVA and a MOT first. You need a number (and date code) to get through this. See above.

Enjoy.


paulbeyer - 25/6/03 at 11:40 PM

My donor was a 1.6 Sierra but my engine is a recon 2.0L with a made up engine number as described by Rob Lane above. I change the V5 to reflect this. What impact will this have when it comes to the SVA? the engine number is something like TL1763 which bears no resemblance to age or capacity.