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1300 xflow to 1600 xflow
tjoh84 - 21/9/07 at 06:53 PM

hiay people me agin i just brought i 1600xflow to replace my 1300xflow can i use the same gear box any probs it would cause thanks

thepest - 21/9/07 at 07:00 PM

They all use the same gearbox, you may need a different clutch depending on which flywheel you're using, if you remove your old 1300 flywheel and clutch they fit the 1600 no prob.

SeaBass - 21/9/07 at 07:01 PM

Should be fine. Only differences could be a different sump and an extra inch in the top of the block.

Cheers

lotustwincam - 21/9/07 at 07:57 PM

quote:
Originally posted by SeaBass
Should be fine. Only differences could be a different sump and an extra inch in the top of the block.


I'll second that. The standard 1600 sump will be considerably lower. Although the 1300 sump will physically fit the 1600, the big ends will hit the shallow sump (just). Personally we modded the 1300 sump, and used the 1300 oil pick-up)

At the top end, the block is about an inch higher. So that may foul your bonnet. And of course your existing exhaust manifold will now be an inch too low!

Apart from that, it is a straight swap. But as usual these. jobs are seldom as simple as you might first think!

Drew

[Edited on 21/9/07 by lotustwincam]

[Edited on 21/9/07 by lotustwincam]

tjoh84 - 21/9/07 at 09:02 PM

hiay thanks for that wish i new all what you lot know didnt even think about the exhaust i been told the clutch is still fitted so prob keep with that one thanks again terry

lotustwincam - 21/9/07 at 10:20 PM

quote:
Originally posted by tjoh84been told the clutch is still fitted so prob keep with that one


If you're sticking with the flywheel/ clutch thats supplied with 1600 engine, check that the ring gear matches your existing one.

There are two different ring gears (maybe more for all I know) - one for an inertia starter and one for a pre-engaged starter.

Its no big deal to change the complete flywheel over if the new engine has the different ring gear.

HTH

Drew

TGR-ECOSSE - 22/9/07 at 09:42 AM

AHH Takes me back I remember doing this when escort engines were still fitted in escorts And bike engines were only fitted in bikes Those were the days ????

Alex B - 22/9/07 at 05:35 PM

I seem to remember GT 1600 eating 1300 boxes. The cheap fix was 2000e v4 replacements.

Alex

johnjulie - 23/9/07 at 03:03 PM

Good time to change to a type 9.
Cheers John

britishtrident - 23/9/07 at 03:10 PM

Depends if your gearbox came from a Mk1 or Mk2, Escort.

MK1 Escort gearboxes last about week of hard use with a 1600 engine. Mk2 gearboxes are a bit stronger but still weak when compared to any of the Cortina & Corsair 1600/200o Capri or Sierra boxes.

Changing the box also means changing the propshaft,
1600 Xflos came with heavier flywheels than the smaller engine.

britishtrident - 23/9/07 at 03:19 PM

quote:
Originally posted by thepest
They all use the same gearbox, you may need a different clutch depending on which flywheel you're using, if you remove your old 1300 flywheel and clutch they fit the 1600 no prob.


Not the full story
1000cc 1100 1300 & 1600 xflo all use a 7.5" (191mm) dia clutch.
Clutch pressure plate is the same on both 1300 and 1600 xflo (also used 1300 and 1600 Pinto) -- driven choice plate depends on the gearbox used.