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Joggling hole in aluminum sheet.
ceebmoj - 21/6/11 at 07:54 PM

Hi all,

I want to joggle the edge of a hole in an aluminum sheet so that I can fit a flush fitting panel held in with dutz or simpler fasteners. does any one have a guide to Joggling or can you recommend a tool? I would like the corners to be radiused, how do you do that?


jacko - 21/6/11 at 08:18 PM

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/items/__joggler+tool_W0QQ_dmdZ2?rvr_id=242445078036&clk_rvr_id=242445078036&crlp=982462591_28459


ceebmoj - 21/6/11 at 08:26 PM

have just seen them but i'm not sure if they can go round a radius conner.


jacko - 21/6/11 at 08:47 PM

No maybe not
How about cutting a hole in a piece of ply wood the shape you want then lay and clamp the alloy on i t.
then tap it to shape
After that cut the center out to leave a flange for the clips

You may have to practice this

Hope you know what i mean
Jacko


DIY Si - 22/6/11 at 07:35 AM

For awkward shapes in steel panels I have used a shaped backing piece and then, using an old screwdriver with the end rounded off slightly, just hammered the shape into the panel. It's best to go gently and take a few passes to get the folds fully formed or you risk ripping the metal.


Fred W B - 22/6/11 at 08:39 AM

I'd try making a hardboard male and female template that fit together with a gap and hammering them together on a backing surface. Cut the hole first, but leave a generous flange to be trimmed
after.

Would work best if you could improvise a press arrangment.

Cheers

Fred W B


[Edited on 22/6/11 by Fred W B]


Peteff - 22/6/11 at 09:11 AM

Put a countersunk set screw in the hole and a few big washers on the other side followed by some smaller washers to grip to. Tighten a nut on the back side and the head should countersink the hole.


2cv - 22/6/11 at 12:47 PM

Good advice from the above. For a small hole a Joddler would not work but a simple press tool certainly would. If you have a number of holes all the same to do, it's might be worth making up as tool. Try to ensure that the aluminium is clamped top and bottom so that the panel will not be damaged.

The attached pictures show a tool that I made up to for a base for headlights.
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jacko - 25/6/11 at 08:21 PM

I may be wrong but i think he want's a inspection hatch type hole say like over the foot peddles say 200mm x 300mm and a flat panel fitting in the rebate
Am i right Ceebmoj ?
Jacko


John Bonnett - 25/6/11 at 09:08 PM

Something like this access hatch? (adjacent to the rear suspension clevises)
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[Edited on 25/6/11 by John Bonnett]


John Bonnett - 5/7/11 at 09:20 AM

Just a few more details of the tool I used. It's called a Rolastep and available from LB Restorations. Link: http://www.lb-restoration.co.uk/cgi-bin/store/commerce.cgi?cart_id=1261895706.1342&product=RESTORATION&pid=377

It is easy to put a stepped flange round a radius but I'm not sure if the flange would be wide enough for a Dzus fixing. I used M5 rivnuts.

Oh, I've just read that it can do a 12mm or 17mm flange so this should be ideal.

A couple of pics below.

John
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[Edited on 5/7/11 by John Bonnett]


ceebmoj - 5/7/11 at 04:17 PM

quote:
Originally posted by jacko
I may be wrong but i think he want's a inspection hatch type hole say like over the foot peddles say 200mm x 300mm and a flat panel fitting in the rebate
Am i right Ceebmoj ?
Jacko


yep thats what i'm trying to do.


locogeoff - 6/7/11 at 12:36 PM

You want a rolastep joggler, kindof expensive for a one off job though.

Regards

Geoff


John Bonnett - 6/7/11 at 01:06 PM

quote:
Originally posted by locogeoff
You want a rolastep joggler, kindof expensive for a one off job though.

Regards

Geoff


Two posts up, keep up at the back


MikeRJ - 6/7/11 at 02:20 PM

You should be able to achieve this using simple male/female wooden forms that you can clamp the sheet between. For making these a wood router would be a useful tool to own, but not completely necessary as you can build up forms from multiple thin sheets of material.


2cv - 6/7/11 at 03:42 PM

quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
You should be able to achieve this using simple male/female wooden forms that you can clamp the sheet between. For making these a wood router would be a useful tool to own, but not completely necessary as you can build up forms from multiple thin sheets of material.


Ah Mike, a man after my own heart. Very simple, no expensive tools needed, clamp it up an tap it down and the beauty of this method is that you can make the step whatever width you need.