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Sierra Stalk Diagram?
RazMan - 8/12/05 at 11:59 PM

I've just spent half an hour of headscratching with my Sierra stalks and a wiring diagram - nothing made sense.
Then I realised I was looking at a Mondeo diagram!! (well it's late isn't it)

Has anyone got a scan of the Haynes manual page or similar of a Sierra stalks diagram?


k33ts - 9/12/05 at 12:02 AM

i got the indicator side and lights if thats anygood


k33ts - 9/12/05 at 12:21 AM

this is tigers diagram should be ok


k33ts - 9/12/05 at 12:25 AM

u2u your email and ill send you a bigger 1 if you want


Peteff - 9/12/05 at 12:34 AM

They used different systems, 3 altogether I think.


RazMan - 9/12/05 at 09:29 AM

Thanks for the scan k33ts. It is rather fuzzy but (from what I can make out) I don't think it would help me anyway as it only details the Tiger part of the circuit - I need the pin-outs of the stalk switches so that I can splice them into my own loom.

Pete, I am not sure what year - there are two assemblies with two connectors on each:

Left: Single stalk - Dip & Main & indicators
Right: Two stalks - Lights on + 3 position wiper with washer button on the end.

Does that help?


flyingkiwi - 9/12/05 at 01:19 PM

I'm at the same head scratching stage myself.

try this pdf

http://auto.novgorod.ru/tech/haynes-ford-sierra/0903-wd.pdf

Its got the wiring diagrams from the haynes manual on it from all three types.

I spent 3 lunch breaks scratching my head over it until I realised I was using the wrong year, its amayzing what differences there are. You should be able to trace back the switches on the diagram and compare the colours of the wires you've got. Word of warnging though. A couple of switched earth wires go from the headlight switch on the right to the indicator switch on the left, nearly came unstuck when I got snip happy. Also make sure the right connectors are on the right side as the plugs are interchangeable. Found that out yesterday!

[Edited on 9-1212-0505 by flyingkiwi]


RazMan - 9/12/05 at 06:11 PM

I know my Russian is a bit rusty but that link appears to be a blank page

*edit* found it here
http://faq.ford77.ru/pdf/sierra/0903-wd.pdf

[Edited on 9-12-05 by RazMan]


rusty nuts - 9/12/05 at 06:57 PM

If you look on the switch there is a part number , some Sierra switch used an earth connection to operate I think the headlight dip relay and some used a positive feed , another had the horn button on the end of the stalk. Part number may help get the correct wiring diagram. I found the Haynes manual not very helpful I even got the pages blown up to poster size and that did'nt help .


RazMan - 9/12/05 at 10:51 PM

I think my switches must be 1987-1989 models judging by the diagram.
I have to agree with Rusty - the diagrams seem needlessly complicated because they have the whole car's diagram whereas I just need the pinouts for the switches so that I can splice them into my semi-complete (and simple) loom.

Looking at the switch there is indeed a part number but how does that relate to any of the diagrams? They only show the component reference number which is referenced by the appropriate 'map' list.

I think I should be able to sort out the connections from the pdf diagrams. I will try to simplify and post a Blue Peter version soon to help the electrically challenged builders like me.


Peteff - 10/12/05 at 09:22 AM

Brown (15) is earth on Ford looms, don't put power through it as you have it as permanent +ve not -ve. Red is permanent live. The brown/yellow and brown/white are earths from the lighting relays, don't put power directly through them either as they are only feeble contacts and will burn out quickly. The brown/black carries the earth from the left to the right side.



[Edited on 10/12/05 by Peteff]


RazMan - 10/12/05 at 10:27 AM

Thanks for the tips Pete
I have revised the dwgs. Rescued attachment Sierra switches Diagram1.jpg
Rescued attachment Sierra switches Diagram1.jpg


RazMan - 10/12/05 at 10:31 AM

and deleted the old ones to save any confusion Rescued attachment Sierra switches Diagram2.jpg
Rescued attachment Sierra switches Diagram2.jpg


Bob C - 10/12/05 at 09:44 PM

Razman that is gold dust
Thanks
Bob


Peteff - 11/12/05 at 12:11 PM

As a rule Ford use Black/ stripe as switched live, Red is permanent live, Brown/ stripe is earthing something. The thick Black/Yellow wire from the ignition supplies all switched lives, Black included via a busbar or spliced wires and the Red runs the permanent lives in the same way, therefore if you connect a red or black to a brown it's a dead short if there's nothing in between. There was a thread about it years ago but it seems to have disappeared.


tks - 11/12/05 at 05:05 PM

sow i know exactly wich wire connects to wich in wich position of the switch...

think its in my photo dia gram

else u2u me..

Tks