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Erm... I Appear to Have Accidentally Bought a Z3!
scootz - 14/3/12 at 04:42 PM

It's happened again! Ebay came calling and I succumbed!

1999 Facelifted 2.8 (M52TU engine).

It's a Cat D insurance jobbie and on 108k miles, so it was dirt cheap. Needs a bonnet, bumper, offside headlight and offside door. No chassis damage, so it's all just 'bolt-on' repairs. Otherwise, it's pretty clean!

The plan is to get it in back in one-piece for the summer and then maybe fiddle with it over the winter (put your orders in now for Z3 spares! ).

But anyway... a Q for some of those that have fiddled with the M52 lump! I've read that the M52 engine has a restricted inlet manifold and that the better-breathing M50 one is a direct replacement. Does anyone know if the ECU needs to be tweaked to suit?

Cheers.






nick205 - 14/3/12 at 04:46 PM

Oh dear Scootz - bad hair day?


welderman - 14/3/12 at 04:47 PM

Cant answer your question mate.

But you make me


tilly819 - 14/3/12 at 04:48 PM

can you buy an impreza next time please, then i can buy it off you for less *wink*

tilly


scootz - 14/3/12 at 04:56 PM

quote:
Originally posted by nick205
Oh dear Scootz - bad hair day?


I have no hair!

But I want to be called Vidal from now on!


scootz - 14/3/12 at 04:57 PM

quote:
Originally posted by tilly819
can you buy an impreza next time please, then i can buy it off you for less *wink*

tilly


Always meant to get round to an STi, but never quite made it. I suspect I never will as the missus hates them.


BenB - 14/3/12 at 05:18 PM

I think you'll find most women don't like it when their men gets STis*





* sexually transmitted infection


mangogrooveworkshop - 14/3/12 at 05:22 PM

quote:
Originally posted by BenB
I think you'll find most women don't like it when their men gets STis*





* sexually transmitted infection
INTERNET GOLD


scootz - 14/3/12 at 05:39 PM

They do say that the STi goes like the 'clappers'!!!


T66 - 14/3/12 at 05:46 PM

"Hey Vidal! Ready for Stoneleigh ? "


Better run down in the z3 than my crusty Land Rover.


We will look so cool, especially if I wear my leather shorts.


scootz - 14/3/12 at 05:51 PM

Leather shorts! You're SO conservative Ivo!

I've looked out a lime-green mankini for the weekend!


rodgling - 14/3/12 at 05:51 PM

You get a small benefit from fitting the 2.5 inlet manifold (and a tiny bit more again if you fit a big bore throttle body, not sure that bit's worth it though). I believe the thinking is that this benefits top-end at the expense of low-end power & torque (which makes the power delivery more fun in my experience), and that a remap will restore the low-end losses (I never got that far with mine). But you can certainly do it bit by bit.


franky - 14/3/12 at 05:53 PM

Good buy, they don't need a remap, just the m50 intake mod and you're looking at 200bhp.

Makes a nice change from all the camp Mx5's around


scootz - 14/3/12 at 06:02 PM

Cheers guys!


MikeRJ - 14/3/12 at 06:06 PM

quote:
Originally posted by scootz

The plan is to


..tinker with it for a few weeks, spend a fortune on parts and then flog it for a pittance


scootz - 14/3/12 at 06:12 PM

You must have me confused with someone else Mike!


imp paul - 14/3/12 at 06:47 PM

O Vidal what have you done lol and ivo leather pants its just a bad day lol


scootz - 14/3/12 at 07:07 PM

I'm already slavering over LS1 and turbo installs on the Zed... all seems a bit silly though for a chassis that has a reputation for being a bit 'flexible' and a rear suspension nicked off a car introduced in 1982 (E30 3 Series).

Z3 Rear Subframe





E30 Rear Subframe



imp paul - 14/3/12 at 07:11 PM

don't worry mate we all lose the right path at some time you just need a little time im sure you will be fine


franky - 14/3/12 at 07:49 PM

quote:
Originally posted by scootz
I'm already slavering over LS1 and turbo installs on the Zed... all seems a bit silly though for a chassis that has a reputation for being a bit 'flexible' and a rear suspension nicked off a car introduced in 1982 (E30 3 Series).

Z3 Rear Subframe





E30 Rear Subframe





I'd prefer you not to call it a Zed Zed's are the 240/260/280z made by Datsun/Nissan

I wouldn't worry about them being 'flexible' BMW have never made a bad handling car have they? The guy with the ls3 install is who i got my 3.2 engine off, it was a little funny that his old engine ended up traveling faster than his 10k+ls3 install!


T66 - 14/3/12 at 07:56 PM

quote:
Originally posted by imp paul
O Vidal what have you done lol and ivo leather pants its just a bad day lol



I've been dabbling with buying a lime green mankini for work.


Be a good laugh at the dunker training to wear under my immersion suit.



Doesn't make me a bad lad, I just don't give a .......


Ninehigh - 14/3/12 at 08:41 PM

I'd love to have your money, to accidentally buy a car!


TPG - 14/3/12 at 09:42 PM

Bonnets can be hard to come by for reasonable costs for those i've found. Looks nice though, not to heavy.
There is a modification, that I have done on E30's, that can be made to the inside rear trailing arm attachment that corrects camber if you go down the lowering route. It involves excentric (?) 5 series 'bolts to allow fine adjustment.


sdh2903 - 14/3/12 at 10:06 PM

surprised the bmw haters havent passed comment yet!


vanepico - 14/3/12 at 10:20 PM

Although to be fair now you've got a beemer, you gotta go out and run over a few cyclists, it's the law!


mediabloke - 14/3/12 at 10:21 PM

You could always get a carbon bonnet, Scott...
[Edit - Just saw the price of one: Clicky Linky..how much!!??]

And this thread made me

[Edited on 14/3/12 by mediabloke]


theduck - 14/3/12 at 10:27 PM

M50 manifold makes a big difference, also fitting a front strut brace ala z3m tightens the front nicely.


scootz - 15/3/12 at 07:47 AM

quote:
Originally posted by mediabloke
You could always get a carbon bonnet, Scott...
[Edit - Just saw the price of one: Clicky Linky..how much!!??]



There are GRP ones available for £500. I'd consider it if I knew the Z3 was going to be a long-termer as it's a 25kg saving over the OE one, but I'm not sure how long I'll be holding onto it for (you know me! ).


scootz - 15/3/12 at 07:49 AM

quote:
Originally posted by TPG
Bonnets can be hard to come by for reasonable costs for those i've found. Looks nice though, not to heavy.
There is a modification, that I have done on E30's, that can be made to the inside rear trailing arm attachment that corrects camber if you go down the lowering route. It involves excentric (?) 5 series 'bolts to allow fine adjustment.


Cheers.

I've seen them come and go on ebay between £150 and £300, but none have been local (and none have offered postage).


scootz - 15/3/12 at 11:21 AM

How much!!!???



roadrunner - 15/3/12 at 12:55 PM

quote:
Originally posted by sdh2903
surprised the bmw haters havent passed comment yet!

When you get round to driving the ZED, you must remember to fix the indicators.
In my experience, Beemers tend to have faulty switches.


nick205 - 15/3/12 at 01:06 PM

quote:
Originally posted by roadrunner
quote:
Originally posted by sdh2903
surprised the bmw haters havent passed comment yet!

When you get round to driving the ZED, you must remember to fix the indicators.
In my experience, Beemers tend to have faulty switches.



This is technically inaccurate and a slight on the German Engineers who design the cars. I think you'll find all Bimmers fully equipped with turn signal indicators and the means to control them. It's the operators that typically think they don't need to use them.

As with most issues - user error (or ignorance).

(Tongue in Cheek BTW before any Bimmer drivers get their Armani's in a twist)


scootz - 15/3/12 at 01:19 PM


theduck - 15/3/12 at 01:34 PM

The indicators work fine, it's just the dials that don't! Not knowing how fast your travelling can be interesting...


scootz - 15/3/12 at 02:04 PM

My cars don't need indicators... they arrive in my garage, but never leave in one piece!


roadrunner - 16/3/12 at 12:41 PM

quote:
Originally posted by nick205
quote:
Originally posted by roadrunner
quote:
Originally posted by sdh2903
surprised the bmw haters havent passed comment yet!

When you get round to driving the ZED, you must remember to fix the indicators.
In my experience, Beemers tend to have faulty switches.



This is technically inaccurate and a slight on the German Engineers who design the cars. I think you'll find all Bimmers fully equipped with turn signal indicators and the means to control them. It's the operators that typically think they don't need to use them.

As with most issues - user error (or ignorance).

(Tongue in Cheek BTW before any Bimmer drivers get their Armani's in a twist)

I have seen that many Bimmers on the road that dont indicate,that I had just presumed it was a manufacturing fault.


Peteff - 16/3/12 at 04:24 PM

You'll have to keep an eye out for the recall notices in future Scootz


scootz - 16/3/12 at 04:38 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Peteff
You'll have to keep an eye out for the recall notices in future Scootz


Pah! I was driving like that even back in the day of my 1.2 Nova 'Flair'!