My local Ford dealer is a waste of space! Well that is unless you want new rear tyres when they are over 3.5mm!
Do independent ford Dealers have the same training and skills as main dealers, the area i am interested in is electrical diagnoses of injector problems.
I hope better!
My local Ford dealer is a waste of space! Well that is unless you want new rear tyres when they are over 3.5mm!
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Originally posted by Myke 2463
Do independent ford Dealers have the same training and skills as main dealers, the area i am interested in is electrical diagnoses of injector problems.
Hope so. Hendy Ford is awful. I once broke down on their forecourt and they asked me to bring it back the following Tuesday!
approximately every 6 months the injectors need calibrating then work ok until the next time when they go into limp mode, fuel consumption is good and
runs ok.
The local independent dealer cant tell me if new injectors or the electronic injector control unit mounted in front of the engine is causing the
problem.
The car is an early 02 model. Not looking to change the car for at least 12 months.
Thanks for any advise,
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Originally posted by rdodger
I hope better!
My local Ford dealer is a waste of space! Well that is unless you want new rear tyres when they are over 3.5mm!
When it goes into limp home and they test it have all the injectors gone out of sync or just one if they have all gone out of sync then you would say it's more likely to be the control unit this is a very common problem on fords and when you recode the system your recoding the control unit not the injectors as there fixed code may be worth doing a leak off test on the injectors aswell.
what you need to find is a good independ - doesn't need to be a ford specialist - in my experience main fakes training just makes them into
glorified part fitting monkeys
Find an independent diesel fuel system specialist with the facilities to properly test the injectors and fuel pump. Facilities dealers won't
have.
Most Dealers struggle to retain decent staff. The companies are not owned by the manufacturer as many people seen to think but a franchise run by
accountants and are only worried about the bottom line. Techs are under pressure to hit targets (both time and sales) and as training costs money the
accountants don't really want to pay for it unless absolutely necessary. Most of the good techs get fed up, leave and start up on their own.
Don't know what codes you are getting but if it is something like "Cylinder ? above knock threshold", it means the injectors are worn
out of tolerance. Sometimes if you re-enter the calibration code it take a while for the ECU to work out the injector is out of tolerance and throw a
wobbly again. These do have known problems with high pressure pumps failing and swarf moving round the system and jamming injectors too.
Try finding a local garage who has one of these;
ASNU Diagnostiscs Machine
Great bit of kit and can even ultrasonically clean the injectors. I've had superb service from my local service centre.
Phil
Thanks for all advice. just 1 injector normally No. 4 once started runs on all 4 smoothly in limp but gutless. as for the technicians ( lol ) the
follow the instructions on the laptop. will ask around for somebody with good reputation.
Merry Christmas.
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Try finding a local garage who has one of these;
ASNU Diagnostiscs Machine
Great bit of kit and can even ultrasonically clean the injectors. I've had superb service from my local service centre.
I don't recall any specific mention of diesel injectors but even so, the ASNU machine is also capable of testing GDI..............
Here
Phil
[Edited on 22-12-14 by Hellfire]
Sorry no intention to offend. 
The diesel was inferred by the fact that the OP said the injectors needed calibrating. This is a calibration code that is produced by a test machine
when common rail injectors are manufactured. It tells the ECU what quantity of fuel the injector will dispense as varying rpm, all down to
manufacturing tolerances.
Every now and then when the car is operating in the right conditions the ECU will test the reaction speed of the injectors by purposely over fuelling
to produce knock. It times from command to knock and if outside tolerance will flag a code and go into limp mode. By re-imputing the calibration code
the ECU goes back to standard fuelling until it gets to the conditions to run a test again and re-flagging the code.
The petrol mondeos of that age have no calibration for petrol injectors.
[Edited on 22/12/14 by DW100]
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Originally posted by Hellfire
...the ASNU machine is also capable of testing GDI..............
Here
Phil
[Edited on 22-12-14 by Hellfire]
Faulty injector would be favourite leak off test would be well worth doing.
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Originally posted by DW100
Sorry no intention to offend.
