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lsdweb - 11/1/15 at 09:46 PM

Hi

I'm really struggling to visualise the K series in my 'new' Striker', especially as I've spent a year thinking about putting it in a mid engined car (Elise).

I've spent ages searching but would be grateful if anybody could share photos / links of their k series installations. Any '7' not just JP cars would help!

Thanks in advance!

Wyn


theduck - 11/1/15 at 09:56 PM

GBS zero build with a K series http://www.rhocar.org/index.php?showtopic=37823


iank - 11/1/15 at 10:02 PM

Not mine, but a couple from the archives

Description
Description




mackei23b - 11/1/15 at 10:05 PM

Here is my old K series running on a megasquirt..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ARDjFpCq7M

Cheers

Ian


Barkalarr - 11/1/15 at 10:15 PM

Here are a few pics :

https://flic.kr/p/pVkKyU
https://flic.kr/p/qaBprE
https://flic.kr/p/pVtDsr
https://flic.kr/p/pVtDsr

The Full Picture Stream of my re-build can be found here :
https://flic.kr/s/aHsjZ7Zp1K

If you need any more pics or video and dimensions then let me know and I'll get the tape measure out for you.


daniel mason - 11/1/15 at 11:56 PM

Pretty much every caterham ran the k series until the duratecs were used. Other than the odd fire blade car,hpc Vauxhall and early 1700cc cross flow cars

[Edited on 11/1/15 by daniel mason]

[Edited on 11/1/15 by daniel mason]


lsdweb - 12/1/15 at 11:02 AM

Thanks for the help!

I'm starting to get my head around it! It's the cooling system that I'm struggling with for some reason. I guess it's the fuss about the remote thermostat in the mid engined cars that is confusing me!

Wyn


daniel mason - 12/1/15 at 03:19 PM

Caterham also use an anti-cav oil tank on the k series. Not sure what it does or if it works though!


lsdweb - 12/1/15 at 04:17 PM

I think it's to 'defroth' the oil which gets mashed by the crank (because the sump is so shallow). I could be talking boll***s though!


quote:
Originally posted by daniel mason
Caterham also use an anti-cav oil tank on the k series. Not sure what it does or if it works though!


talkingcars - 12/1/15 at 06:19 PM

quote:
Originally posted by lsdweb
Thanks for the help!

I'm starting to get my head around it! It's the cooling system that I'm struggling with for some reason. I guess it's the fuss about the remote thermostat in the mid engined cars that is confusing me!

Wyn


Not all K series MG/Rover cars have a remote thermostat, it was only the MGTF and was fitted to avoid thermal shock caused by the long under body pipes from the engine bay to the radiator dumping cold coolant in to a hot engine.


lsdweb - 12/1/15 at 06:33 PM

Thanks talkingcars

I'd guessed that was the case - I have a pile of bits left over from my Elise and was rummaging through those which probably confused me (not difficult these days!)

Wyn


rdodger - 12/1/15 at 06:58 PM

Google images is your friend

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=caterham+engine&biw=1366&bih=673&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=FRm0VMe_F4noaMOQgeAD&ved=0 CAYQ_AUoAQ#tbm=isch&q=caterham+k+series+engine


matty h - 12/1/15 at 07:32 PM

The none remote thermostat location is on the bottom hose not the top this is one of the causes of the headgasket failures. I have two cars running k series engine both have been fitted with a freelander remote thermostat, car builders solutions also sell a thermostat. The other option is to buy a standard k series stat with housing then it in the top hose and keep the other housing but without the stat.
Matty


MikeRJ - 12/1/15 at 09:14 PM

The PRT (pressure relief thermostat) is the one used on later vehicles such as the Freelander and helps head gasket issues by allowing coolant flow is heavy engine load is applied when the engine is cold. This was a particular problem in the Freelander as it was a big heavy vehicle for the engine to lug around, but also helped with the rear engined cars.


rdodger - 12/1/15 at 10:33 PM

The PRT is a favourite with K series Caterhams


lsdweb - 12/1/15 at 10:46 PM

Thanks again!

I fitted a PRT to the Elise but it stayed behind when the Elise went.

I've also got a Laminova water to oil cooler which I may use as this brings the oil up to temperature more quickly - good for sprints and hillclimbs.


rdodger - 13/1/15 at 08:15 PM

Sounds good.

All you need now is the Caterham 6 speed box to keep it on the boil!


lsdweb - 14/1/15 at 09:09 AM

Thanks rdodger

Sadly the budget won't stretch to that! It'll be a plain old Type 9 for now!


lsdweb - 14/1/15 at 06:19 PM

Sorry to be cheeky guys but I'm struggling to work out the engine mounts! I've just received a set of Caterham ones from Scootz (there are four), the chassis (which was not designed for the K series) is in one location, the engine in an other. Could somebody send me a couple of photos with the Caterham mounts on a K series .

Much appreciated!


rdodger - 14/1/15 at 07:14 PM

A couple here.
http://www.willfly.net/the_build.html


lsdweb - 14/1/15 at 09:04 PM

Excellent - thanks!

quote:
Originally posted by rdodger
A couple here.
http://www.willfly.net/the_build.html


scootz - 14/1/15 at 09:11 PM

Is that your engine in the avatar?


lsdweb - 14/1/15 at 09:36 PM

Yep - 1400 K series :-)

quote:
Originally posted by scootz
Is that your engine in the avatar?


scootz - 14/1/15 at 09:43 PM

Very nice!


lsdweb - 14/1/15 at 09:55 PM

Thanks Scott

Straight from Dave Andrews - short stroke 1400 - it's basically one of Dave's 1900 K engines but with a short stroke crank and custom pistons. So it uses the big valve VVC head which doesn't usually fit on the small 1400 bore. It'll run on an Emerald K6 ECU :-)


peter030371 - 21/1/15 at 08:13 PM

Some pics of a K in a Striker in Indy Birds archive such as this

manifold
manifold


philfingers - 1/2/15 at 02:26 PM

If I can help you with an alternator adjuster then let me know, non for sale at the moment as I'm away, but home tomorrow!
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=281563270174
Made them for all sorts of things from classic racing cars, 600hp ethanol air cooled VW's to ocean going yachts!
Shameless plug over. . . !


britishtrident - 1/2/15 at 02:58 PM

quote:
Originally posted by talkingcars
quote:
Originally posted by lsdweb
Thanks for the help!

I'm starting to get my head around it! It's the cooling system that I'm struggling with for some reason. I guess it's the fuss about the remote thermostat in the mid engined cars that is confusing me!

Wyn


Not all K series MG/Rover cars have a remote thermostat, it was only the MGTF and was fitted to avoid thermal shock caused by the long under body pipes from the engine bay to the radiator dumping cold coolant in to a hot engine.


No that is not quite the case.

The remote thermostat was a modification introduced initially on the Rover 75 18 it was a Landrover Td5 part. The use was as far as I know only on 2003 on 75 & ZT and MG TF and Freelander. It had two major advantages in that it both allows much greater bypass flow and opens under flow pressure this which reduces problems created by subjecting the engine to high loads and rpm before the engine has reached normal running temperature.
The Rover 25 & 45 series used an another modification called the SAAB valve
Xpart market retrofit kits for most models (not 25 & 45) but it it is cheaper to buy the Landover part and improvise. However the simpler modification of drilling the existing thermostat works just as well at the expense of longer warm up.