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subk2002 - 17/1/05 at 06:32 PM

Iv been looking at the Zcars bike engined mini. Thay look pretty smart I was wondering if anyone on here was building one or have looked into them etc?

Cheers Drew


ChrisW - 17/1/05 at 07:02 PM

Is that the one where they supply a roll cage type arrangement that the engine and drive train bolt in to? Had a good look at that at Stoneleigh - interesting concept!

Donut may be the man to talk to about Mini's. I don't think he has any direct experience of bike powered ones, but he may know someone that does!

Chris


white130d - 17/1/05 at 07:13 PM

KB hasn't jumped in yet, but here is his website....

Kimini

I think the bike engine concept is a good one....

opps I just remembered KB is doing a mid engine honda power...

nevermind...


David


jacko - 17/1/05 at 07:30 PM

Try Richard r1 on this forum
jacko


Northy - 17/1/05 at 08:37 PM

I know a guy building one round here, but he's not on this forum

I'll email him.


undecided - 17/1/05 at 08:54 PM

Try "Dreckly" on here he does a space framed mini which i understand can take a bike motor
Car is called the UltiMini


ady8077 - 17/1/05 at 09:16 PM

Did you see this posted a few months back

http://www.freewebs.com/mega-r1/mini_index.html

Made by MK?

Adrian


robinbastd - 17/1/05 at 10:36 PM

Here's the link to the Ultimini...
http://ultimini.co.uk/

Ken will be the first to admit that his website is a little basic,but it's a start. The new chassis he has started working on will be state of the art. So keep watching his site.
Ian

[Edited on 17/1/05 by robinbastd]


undecided - 18/1/05 at 12:00 AM

Hurray website online!!!!!! Just needs some pictures now bloke.


Northy - 18/1/05 at 07:17 PM

Hi,

I emailed Digby, here's his Zcars mini build site:

http://www.geocities.com/drusling/mini/mini_home.htm

He admits: "there isn't much zcars build info on there yet, I'm just taking things apart at the moment." but I'm sure he'll update it as he builds.

Cheers


subk2002 - 18/1/05 at 10:31 PM

Thanks guys
Its just what i was looking for.

Cheers

[Edited on 18/1/05 by subk2002]


donut - 18/1/05 at 11:13 PM

Bill Sollis who is 3 times Mini Miglia champion tested loads of mini's for a DVD which i have. He drove the Z cars mini and said when he got out "That's the best f***** thing i have ever driven" or words to that effect!!!

You can make these mini's very light, about 400kg or less!!! and they look great fun!


BUSA RUSH - 19/1/05 at 01:13 AM

400?
tell me how..
i want one next yr.. busa powered of course..
dave..


donut - 19/1/05 at 07:41 AM

All of the rear floor and seat is removed plus the engine/gearbox which weighs shed loads. I beleive there are space frame front subframes to replace the mini one which will lighten things a bit too. Light weight race seats, bike dash etc etc, it don't take long!!

[Edited on 19/1/05 by donut]


BUSA RUSH - 19/1/05 at 11:00 AM

how would you get on with emisions at mot time?
as far as i can see you will need at cat etc if you have a modern bike engine...
good thing is though buy an old mini for the logbook.. then use a brand new shell ...that's what i'm thinking of for me next project...
dave..


subk2002 - 19/1/05 at 05:04 PM

Do you know how much thay can be built for Donut ??
Im thinking about it myself

Cheers Drew


Petemate - 19/1/05 at 05:34 PM

Busa Rush - you've gotta finish your present project first - and no stuffing it on the first hill-climb just so you can use the engine in a Z-car....
Petemate
AKA Pops


donut - 19/1/05 at 05:52 PM

Erm...no idea of cost but i would estimate about 8K minimum, just under 5k for the roll cage kit, 2k for the engine and all the bits (fuel tank, rad etc) which leaves 1k for paint and sundries. Decent job, probably looking at about 10-12k if you go for carbon front end, roof and doors plus plastic windows etc!!

[Edited on 19/1/05 by donut]


subk2002 - 20/1/05 at 04:52 PM

Cheers Donut


subk2002 - 21/1/05 at 11:38 PM

Northy i gave Digby an e mail to see what he can tell me about them.

Cheers Dude Thanks

Drew


Northy - 22/1/05 at 09:38 AM

No worries!


Diggers - 25/1/05 at 10:44 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Northy
Hi,

I emailed Digby, here's his Zcars mini build site:

http://www.geocities.com/drusling/mini/mini_home.htm

He admits: "there isn't much zcars build info on there yet, I'm just taking things apart at the moment." but I'm sure he'll update it as he builds.

Cheers


[Edited on 25/1/05 by Diggers]

[Edited on 25/1/05 by Diggers]


subk2002 - 25/1/05 at 10:59 PM

Welcome to the site Digby

Cheers Drew


Alez - 1/2/05 at 01:26 PM

Do you know of any specialist which makes a standard Mini convertible? I've seen only one in the flesh here in Spain some years ago and it looked really nice with a soft top. It also had wider wheel arches.

Cheers,

Alex


MikeRJ - 1/2/05 at 02:37 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Alez
Do you know of any specialist which makes a standard Mini convertible? I've seen only one in the flesh here in Spain some years ago and it looked really nice with a soft top. It also had wider wheel arches.

Cheers,

Alex


Paul Bahnam made a very nice looking mini conversion (as well as some other less great looking cars). The designs were sold to RallySportReplicas


Alez - 1/2/05 at 03:14 PM

quote:
Paul Bahnam made a very nice looking mini conversion (as well as some other less great looking cars). The designs were sold to RallySportReplicas


Hmm, yes I've seen these before, they look great, but is this a conversion to "convertible" with some top (soft or hard) or is it a conversion to "no top whatsoever"??

Any others making true convertibles?

Cheers,

Alex


[Edited on 1/2/05 by Alez]


ettore bugatti - 1/2/05 at 03:23 PM

Cabrioni in the Netherlands did cabrios. Still available through Ben van Leeuwen.
The original Rover Cabrio was from a German company


Snuggs - 1/2/05 at 10:24 PM

For the ultimate mini check out http://www.spagweb.com/v8mini/


Alez - 2/2/05 at 07:29 AM

quote:
Cabrioni in the Netherlands did cabrios. Still available through Ben van Leeuwen. The original Rover Cabrio was from a German company


Thank you Ettore. Link here:
http://www.minicentrebenvanleeuwen.nl/
Definitely a convertible, with its nice soft top.

I didn't know there once was a Rover Cabrio.

What I'm wondering now is if the bike engine conversion by ZCars would be compatible at all with any of these restylings (either Paul Bahnam or Cabrioni). Also it would be interesting to know if the Cabrioni conversion includes reinforcement of the chassis (just as the Paul Banham does) so the stiffness of the car doesn't go down too much.

Cheers,

Alex


ettore bugatti - 2/2/05 at 12:06 PM

Well it was a german kit (Kamm?) and it did come with a body kit Rescued attachment mini-cabrio.jpg
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Alez - 3/2/05 at 10:05 AM

Drew,

Go to this forum:
http://www.theminiforum.co.uk/
In the "Projects" section, there's 2 or 3 guys working on ZCars Mini mods.

I really like the concept but the kit comes at 3404 + vat:
http://www.zcars.org.uk/mini/conversion-minisingle.htm
I would love to see a similar conversion (chain driven), done the Locost way somehow, available in kit form

Cheers,

Alex


Alez - 4/2/05 at 10:02 AM

Turn key and kit available, here:
http://www.gomini.com/index.htm

Must be RWD because they do 5 secs 0-60, any info?

Cheers,

Alex


subk2002 - 4/2/05 at 06:32 PM

Thanks Alex
I joined the mini forum one the build looks good.

Only thing is i was made redundant on wednesday so its on the back burner

Cheers Drew


EddThompson - 8/2/05 at 12:47 AM

I absolutly love it, but at the price you could build a similar locost (gts what have you) and it would probably be better

edd


Jeffers_S13 - 31/5/05 at 11:18 AM

Im loving this thread, although Im a bit of a late comer. I havent finished my current build and I already want a bike engined mini next. Ive seen a nicer looking speedster though, in Mini World a good 10 years or so ago *I think* when a mini was about all I could afford. It was red and had lots of chequer plate in it, thats about all I can remember.

James


woodster - 31/5/05 at 12:07 PM

Did the MK mini get finished is there any more info or pics