i have to share this with someone. Such a bizarre sight. I saw a man today, probs mid 40's, quite big in womans clothes. Skirt, makeup, high
heels, fake gucci handbag etc etc. Clothes were well grotty. He was well ugly. Couldnt walk in the heels. It is a sight that will haunt me for a long
time.
My mate owns the Post Office round the corner from such a sight and confirmed he has to wear them for so long before he can have the op!!!!!
I
thought it was a pi55 take at first, but apparently not. 2 lasses in the car behind were pointing and laughing like mad, im pleased they saw it as
well, i thought i was seeing things
You need to tell us where this is so we can steer well clear!!!
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Originally posted by DarrenW
My mate owns the Post Office round the corner from such a sight and confirmed he has to wear them for so long before he can have the op!!!!!
freaks
Tindale Crescent area of Bishop Auckland. The best laugh is it is quite a rough hard place to live. He/She is either very thick skinned are incredibly
hard. i suspect the latter or he wouldnt still be trying to walk - best not to mess with it me thinks and stay well away.
Only reason i was there was to go to the council tip with rubbish. Might go long way round next time.
If i was head of the NHS id make them dress like that for 5 years minimum then turn them down.
Ive got no prejudices but that kind of freaked me out a bit. Ive seen the lady boys in Thailand and that was just good cabaret. This was just odd,
wish i took a pic. Imagine Herman Munster with blue rinse and frizzy perm in oxfam's best cross dressing kit..............
Ive just put myself off my tea now - feel sick.
I know your saying you have no predujice etc
but deep down you dont agree, and its shocked you! its hard to always make yourself sound right on a forum with out sounding OTT or extreme
Ive had these arguments before about gay people, I dont agree with any of it.. but if someones pleasent to me Im not going to be rude back aprt from
being seen talking to a tranny
apparently Im homophobic?? thats what these girls reckon anyway
which means I feel threatened by these people?
WTF was all that came to mind
One day in the distant future Normal everyday people who live the basic way ie man+woman with kids.. will be freaks
the tables are turning slowly
I just think that people like that are sad cases...
[Edited on 24/11/05 by David Jenkins]
My best mate's dad went for the change on the NHS about 20 years ago - his then wife and my mate had to go through compulsory counselling (part
of their terms) before the op could take place; you can imagine how happy his wife and my mate were about this. He then went and shacked up with a
woman who'd become a bloke (no I don't know about swapping tackle!) They now run a shop somewhere in the midlands selling clothes for
transvestites and related curiosities. Funny old world.
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Originally posted by zxrlocost
the tables are turning slowly
nice legs
a regular customer at my work place dresses in mini skirts and stockings, mainly purple and black stripey stockings and of course heels/woman type
shoes, must be about 55 years old, sound chap actually 
[Edited on 24/11/05 by daz]
Real danger of sounding like a bunch of rednecks on this one. I'm not gay but I've been friends with one or two guys who are. Live & let live, I say. If a bloke wants to wander round in a dress, what harm is it doing? It must take a lot to put up with the sniggers & sneers! Anyway, I always wonder about the guys who protest so much, do they have something to hide? By the laws of average, a number of members of this forum will be gay or transvestite.
I went to college with someone mid change. Scared the life out of me as he had a nervous tick which involved winking at you! Nice person once you got
past the concept of a 6'4" built like a rugby player with 5o'clock shadow at 2pm wearing womens clothes, size 12 heals and a red
wig.
Shame she upset a lecturer by knowning more about real life computer programming in one subject.......
as for right or wrong - are they hurting you? if not, butt out, its there life, let them live it, they've got enough demons to deal with.
A friend of my wife used to run a clothes shop and one day a fat balding old bloke came in and was looking through the lingerie. She was smiling as
she thought he'd just come in for a perv, till he asked if she did a suspender belt and fishnet set in a larger size. When she asked roughly what
size he was after he said he wasn't sure and did she have a tape measure . He was disappointed as she couldn't get them in his size and
she couldn't get rid of him fast enough.
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Originally posted by Mike R-F
Real danger of sounding like a bunch of rednecks on this one. I'm not gay but I've been friends with one or two guys who are. Live & let live, I say. If a bloke wants to wander round in a dress, what harm is it doing? It must take a lot to put up with the sniggers & sneers! Anyway, I always wonder about the guys who protest so much, do they have something to hide? By the laws of average, a number of members of this forum will be gay or transvestite.
quote:
Originally posted by zxrlocost
One day in the distant future Normal everyday people who live the basic way ie man+woman with kids.. will be freaks
the tables are turning slowly
Normal means 'of the majority' There are only 5% of homosexuals in this country which makes them a minority and yet they
are all over our tv and radio, in all the papers and in Parliament, they're everywhere and they seem to get everything they want in terms of
consideration from the government just like all the other minority groups! Anyway enough of my ranting. Some of my good friends are homosexual and as
long as they keep their private lives to themselves and this applies to heterosexuals also, I haven't got a problem with them or any cross
dressing gender benders. I think they would be equally offended if I branded them heterophobic and banged on about my private sex life in
intimate detail in public. I'm sure most people have a little abnormality in them somewhere. (In Geordie)
But ee figures right, ees paid ees munee.
So ee flips im ova and.............................its starts first time and they just drive away.
I've got a feeling this is going to be a very contentious topic.
I've got a real issue with lots of ism's / phobics.
not sure how to explain this one.
Like Jon says, if you come to this country you should live by this countrys rules. I seem to remember a comment if you come to this country you should
support this country at cricket. I sort of agree. If i'm in another country i'll support that country at sport until they play england, at
which point i'll support england. I think that is perfectly reasonable, i can't get my head round people who live in this country and
support anyone but england - if you dislike it that much blooming well move!
As for racisum - to be a racist you have to have intent to cause hurt! I remember being at a christmas party, bloke i was next to me (and had know for
3 years) said when i was having a characture done, "just hand him a white page and say its an extreme close up". I retorted "well do
the same for him and colour the page in". he accused me of being racist? No intent, just supposed to be returning his comment back.........
makes me mad at times.
Sort of agree with your comment jon about people who are gay which seemed to be treat everyone equal and keep it indoors. However society (and me)
seem quite happy to see straight couples holding hands, kissing hello etc then i've also got no problem with seeing gay couples doing the
same.
Suppose i'm just saying I've only got about 80 years on this planet, that gives me about 50 years left. I really don't want to waste
that time getting annoyed by the way other people dress, who they kiss, what colour there skin is, what religion they believe in.
At the same time i don't want other people interfereing in my life as long as i'm sticking to societys basic rules of be good, don't
hurt others, pay your taxes.
'i can't get my head round people who live in this country and support anyone but england - if you dislike it that much blooming well move!
'
Please try & remember there's more to this country of ours than England. Not everyone in Scotland, Wales & N Ireland want to see England
beaten at any sport come what may. I would have been very happy to see England trounce the All Blacks last Saturday. I doubt Scotland will even come
close but I'd welcome some English support.
I think we should remember that, as a group, we have chosen to follow a different path too. It wouldn't worry me if others thought me
'sad' or a 'freak' because I choose to spend evenings & weekends in a garage banging bits of metal into something resembling a
car but with none of the creature comforts or conformity associated with cars. What we do gives us pleasure in being individualistic, what gives us
the right to criticize others who choose to follow their own path?
As for immigrants following the laws of the host country, great! But we Brits make the worst immigrants in the world. When we move abroad, as so many
do these days, we generally fail to pick up the language, insult the locals, stick to our own communities and flout the laws of the host country. If
the majority of Brits in Spain had to sit a 'citizenship' test, they'd all be sent back here!
Fair comment.
I've no problem with minority groups of any sort as long as they don't use their sexuality, race, gender to get their way or to try to
influence, badger or convert people. I have a good friend who is a graphic designer, he's homosexual but what has that got to do with his ability
as a graphic designer or what has it got to do with him as a person? That is his own private business. Do we need to know the ins and outs of his
private life in order to accept him as a person? No! Thankfully, although he's open about it in as much as he comes out with us with his
boyfriend, neither of them flaunt their sexuality in anyone's face, nor do any of my heterosexual friends for that matter, which is, I believe,
how it should be.
I am a musician, I don't feel the need to go around telling all and sundry that I'm a sheep worrying musician or that I belong to the league
of guitar players who like to staple their nads to the table.
It confuses me somewhat when you see 'The Gay Morris Minor Club' or 'The Gay Harley Davidson Owners Club.'
Do these people want to integrate with society or do they want to continue to alienate themselves and keep moaning about not being accepted as normal
members of society? I'll be buggered if I know..oops better rephrase that!
Incidentally as well as having homosexual friends, I have black people in my family, my cousin is black, he's a famous club DJ/ record producer
and musician who recently had a no 1 hit. Just thought I'd throw that in! I have women friends one of whom is my wife (who knows her place). So
I can't be a queer hating chauvinistic racist can I?
Peace and good will to all men....and women....and those in between! X
Cheers
Jon
How do you know his Gucci bag was fake ?
See a guy probably every wek in Milton near Cambridge, ugly sod as well .
Im afraid I have seen guys like this out in public too.
About 2 weks back there was a guy in the weston favell shopping centre in northampton - so obviously a bloke.
The 'best' was a couple months before, when a pair of guys who were way overdressed in teen type gear were walking to gether in the Milton
Keynes shopping centre.
Its my wife who chooses where we shop, not me !
A few years back, my neice worked in 'new look' for a while. They had a guy came in regular. So it wouldnt upset customers, he was allowed
to come in after hours.
Wasnt me, honest 
atb
steve
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Originally posted by Mike R-F
Please try & remember there's more to this country of ours than England.
I doubt Scotland will even come close but I'd welcome some English support.
As for immigrants following the laws of the host country, great! But we Brits make the worst immigrants in the world. When we move abroad, as so many do these days, we generally fail to pick up the language, insult the locals, stick to our own communities and flout the laws of the host country. If the majority of Brits in Spain had to sit a 'citizenship' test, they'd all be sent back here!
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Originally posted by jonbeedle
It confuses me somewhat when you see 'The Gay Morris Minor Club' or 'The Gay Harley Davidson Owners Club.'
Do these people want to integrate with society or do they want to continue to alienate themselves and keep moaning about not being accepted as normal members of society?
Talking of prejudice, I happen to own a 1958 Peerless GT, a rare glassfibre car based on TR3 running gear. The owners club is part of the TR Register. Historically, these cars have been butchered by TR owners for spare parts as the Peerless was somehow seen as a 'lesser' car, consiquently there's probably only around 50 or so left out of the original 297 cars. Shortly after joining the TR Register, I went along to one of the local groups. Everything was going well 'till someone asked me which TR I actually had. After I said 'I don't have a TR, I've got a Peerless' I would have had a better reception if I'd turned up in a dress, wig & high heels. Now that would be really scary!
There's one lives down this area, disturbingly good legs but needs a check up from the neck up and seems to have a lot of problems with a four o-clock shadow!
I was once described as having the best legs of any man in fishnet tights!!!!!!!!
it was a fancy dress vicars and tarts party - honest!
the worrying bit was when girls started asking how i got my legs so smooth!
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Originally posted by MikeR
quote:
Originally posted by jonbeedle
It confuses me somewhat when you see 'The Gay Morris Minor Club' or 'The Gay Harley Davidson Owners Club.'
Do these people want to integrate with society or do they want to continue to alienate themselves and keep moaning about not being accepted as normal members of society?
Why do we have a MK Owners club? Because they own an MK, want to talk about it & share the experience? Why is there a BEC list? Because people want to associate with something, feel part of something, share experience.....
I'm guessing its the same for the moggy and harley club. Plus i've witnessed prejudice and the freedom to enjoy your passion in a "safe" environment is probably another big incentive to forming these clubs.
If you object to anything you're xyz-phobic or xyz-ist.
If you still disagree, you're in denial.
At least, I think that's how modern liberalism works. 
Neil.
"It's just another example of it being rammed down our throats!"
Your experiences sound terrible - hope you are feeling better now
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Originally posted by fesycresy
How do you know his Gucci bag was fake ?
i agree wholeheartedly with the guy who said live and let live ....
i think that some of you however may have a few issues with your own sexualities because of the way you criticise and accuse others of being wrong
because of their sexual preference. Before anyone acuses me of being gay or similar i would like to say that im not.
also some of you i guess would e the kind of people that would not go the my old place of work because of gill and your not alone
i used to work at a landrover garage with a guy names nick and his dad gill
yes his dad is now a woman he has no problem with it nor do i it was a bt weird when she then turned out to be a lesbian at first i thought she wa
snicks mum and justr a butch dyke but she used to be a man it doesnt make much sense to me but its her choice
how sure have you got to be that its what you want to do to have ure dick lopped off ??
some of you need to grow up a bit .
I have just read thro these threads and am LMAO.
You guys are brilliant! These threads are like a form of Chinese whispers when they get going. i hope people take it with the comedy twist that was
intended.
I should explain, im sure a lot of you live in areas where all sorts goes on. Up this neck of the woods it is a little more unusual to see a more
mature and hard lived gentleman struggling to walk in high heels. Iam NOT anyphobic in ANY form. Live and let live is a good description of my ethics.
I wish the guy in question every happiness. What prompted the post was (and this is going to type wrong) how funny the situation was. The poor guy is
obviously forced to live the life of a woman for some time by the powers that be that run our country, this in itself is a whole other topic,
unfortunately he was a big guy, not particularly lady like and was really struggling to walk in those heels. You had to be there. If there is anyone
more liberally minded than me out there even they would have had to take a second look. The girls in the car behind were young and to be honest there
visible outburst was a little off. I do sit proud in the knowledge that i only looked and didnt pass any comment at the time (thankfully i didnt drive
into the car in front either!!!!)
Fake Gucci bag - ahhhhhhh, youve got me there. Presumable his op is going to be pricey so he may actually be able to afford a real one. I innocently
presumed fake cos of where i saw him - admittedly not a sound assumption.
For the record im not building a fake Caterham. Iam building a specialist sports replica
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Originally posted by Messenjah
i think that some of you however may have a few issues with your own sexualities because of the way you criticise and accuse others of being wrong because of their sexual preference. Before anyone acuses me of being gay or similar i would like to say that im not.
I used to live next door tothe local head of the Jehova witnesses.
He was the best neighbour ever, not once did he try it on with his different religous beliefs..
we all got on superbly
but when someone trys to push things in your face as if there trying to prove a point I dont agree..
"For the record im not building a fake Caterham. Iam building a specialist sports replica"
bollox, i did build a fake lotus7 (old caterham lol)
so that makes me gay does it ?
Yes, but I have no problem with that!
well, im not, and thats official
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Originally posted by rusty nuts
See a guy probably every wek in Milton near Cambridge, ugly sod as well .