just out of interest what parts would i need for a turbo conversion on a zetec se???
obviously ill need a small turbo and will need to fiddle with the exhaust to mount it, ill need oil pipes for the turbo and an intercooler/charge
cooler and pipework to plum it all in.
after this im lost, no doubt i need a new ecu (help and ideas please) and sensors and i guess an actuator so i can turn down the pressure of the
turbo.
has anyone turbo'd a zetec se before???
If you ever want to look at one i live in Kettering.
Subaru turbo is ideal as you can turn the ports around and gives plenty of boost.
that would be great - how much did it cost to do? and what parts did you need to get it all working?
Zetec SE (or 'Sigma', 1600cc) is a completely different beast to a Zetec though.
If you're handy with electronics and computers and have plenty of time and enthusiasm to map it yourself you could build a Megasquirt. If not I
would suggest a common aftermarket ECU like Emerald so that you have a decent choice of people to take it to for mapping.
[Edited on 4/12/08 by matt_claydon]
thats my plan aswell.
i have got a TD04 and TD05(needs refurb).
but i have actually done sod all at the moment.
i have been advised to keep the oil drain vertical as is in the impreza.
turbo £85
gaskets £48
intercooler £45
pipes £25
rs turbo manifold £55
oil feed pipe £12
made air box
made exhaust
spacer plate £24
dump valve £75
APR rod bolts
Would strongly recommend rod bolts as i knocked big end out as they are the weakest link. I am now running forged pistons and steel rods because i run
20psi which equals 320 BHP
oh 
forged pistons for the SE are special order only from burtons and they don't give a price...
plan is to run a 'low blow' set up, something like 0.3 bar or there abouts and hope there is no need for pistons.
seems like the most costly part of the whole thing is the ecu and sensors 
something i have no idea about
I didn't run 20psi on my GT-four...when its on boost your car must go like sh*t off a stick!
[Edited on 4/12/08 by pocket rocket]
I am shaw if i had changed my rod bolts to ARP ones and not kept turning the boost up. I would still be on the same engine as i had done about 2500 miles in it before i started playing
On the subaru turbo the turbo flange is a bit of a pig to make so i had some lazer cut you are quite welcome to one.
You should be able to run 5-7psi on a standard bottom end without any problems, as long as you retard the ignition suitably and run a fairly
effective intercooler. You may even be able to use the standard injectors but they might run a bit near the limit...
I can thoroughly recommend the megasquirt route - it required a HELL of a lot of research and reading, but it's worked brilliantly on my zetec
turbo (2l zetec s that is, not 1.6 se).
Good luck, and keep us informed about the project!
erm, zetec SE has a 11:1 compression ratio, not much left to blow at. I'd say to get a decompression plate made up, otherwise it's not worth
it.
Also not forget that the SE engines have conrods made out of some weird powdering technique
madteg - that would be great, one less thing to worrie about.
If the 1.6 injectors top out the racing puma 1.7 injectors might fit (maybe)
how much will one of these megasquirt units set me back?
Do you think the con rods will let go then?
there is a company that have supercharged the SE to over 200bhp and say its ok can't remember the name but they do the 4age supercharger kit
kit... i think it was rotex
[Edited on 4/12/08 by pocket rocket]
would a powercommander be ok rather that an emerald or megasquirt??? or are they just for bike engines?
[Edited on 4/12/08 by pocket rocket]
don't do it, an easy 180bhp without a turbo. Anything involving big torque will blow the roda apart, i run them to 8500, they have been shotpened
but are pretty marginal, you can get rods cheaply but i cannot run them cos of stupid ill thought out regs (thanks gary).
speak to jon at shawspeed, best phone on a saturday morning!
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Originally posted by mawmaw
don't do it, an easy 180bhp without a turbo. Anything involving big torque will blow the roda apart, i run them to 8500, they have been shotpened but are pretty marginal, you can get rods cheaply but i cannot run them cos of stupid ill thought out regs (thanks gary).
speak to jon at shawspeed, best phone on a saturday morning!
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Originally posted by pocket rocket
oh
forged pistons for the SE are special order only from burtons and they don't give a price...
hi guys new to this site so be gentle. turboing a zetec se (sigma) very easy wait for about 6 months and fords will sell you all the bits off the self. we are just starting to build this engine in bridgend, 1600cc=120bhp!! so should have abit of leway. to get it to 150-160easy....
i will be gentle honest, how interesting, go on tell us more, promise we can keep a secret!
go on go on which car what spec etc oh and why so little power when the normally aspirated that ford do produces the same power?
oh and that picture is not of an se rod and piston!!
[Edited on 9/12/08 by mawmaw]
will guys this turbo engine is surprosed to be a low emmission engine..i.e small engine good mpg whack a turbo on and you got a zippy little car.. not sure what model it will be in yet. but i would think focus/fiesta/ka more than likely.... right remember lads you anit heard it form me!!!
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Originally posted by terryroberts
not sure what model it will be in yet. but i would think focus/fiesta/ka more than likely....
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Originally posted by mcerd1
but isn't the new KA getting a fiat engine ? (as its basicaly a Panda / 500 isn't it ?)
Has there been any internal work to the 1600 engine (rods, pistons etc) or is it the same basic engine with a little turbo kit and new ecu bolted
on?
roll on 6 months
knowing how we work ie fords. it more than likely a bolt on job. just piston/rods changed. we build volvo si6 engine the only diffence between turbo and n/a is pistons, head gasket and cams basicely..
if the rods are the right length they could be fantastic news as they would be a lot stronger