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bloody car wont start now!
daniel mason - 16/1/12 at 07:18 PM

car has been stood in garage with no exhaust now for about 3 months and not been started.so on friday after i had my exhaust done i went out and bought 5 litres of fuel but it wouldnt start. i thought the battery sounded tired due to being stood so long so i charged it up overnight. went back next day and still wont start. its firing and turning over but just wont start. fuel pump is priming and every few attempts to start there is an almighty bang from the unburnt fuel in the exhaust. the car was running fine with old exhaust but was far too loud so i sold the silencers. but now wont start at all.
will have to have a good look this weekend and get it running again.

ashg - 16/1/12 at 07:32 PM

cold start enrichment needs a tweak by the sounds of it.

coyoteboy - 16/1/12 at 07:34 PM

In such situations I rely on something like easy start to get it running and see if it repeats on the next startup, rules out damp issues.

britishtrident - 16/1/12 at 07:49 PM

Have you disturbed the plug leads ? check the firing order.

Also take all the plugs out and spin the engine over to clear out the bores.

norfolkluego - 16/1/12 at 07:52 PM

You want a can of

BigLee - 16/1/12 at 07:58 PM

Cold starting mate. Probably flooded the hell out of it. Plugs out, clean off and leave it 24 hours. I know this because I've just come in from the freezing cold after suffering the same thing this weekend. Kit cars eh?!

rusty nuts - 16/1/12 at 08:11 PM

Try a squirt of brake cleaner down the inlet, it works as good as easistart but isn't so harsh on the engine.

coyoteboy - 16/1/12 at 08:39 PM

Out of interest, why is easy start hard on the engine (for the 2-3 cycles of fuelling each bore sees)? (genuinely curious, stories of engines getting addicted are interesting but to my mind do nothing but point out people haven't fixed the original problem).

MikeRJ - 16/1/12 at 08:52 PM

quote:
Originally posted by coyoteboy
Out of interest, why is easy start hard on the engine (for the 2-3 cycles of fuelling each bore sees)? (genuinely curious, stories of engines getting addicted are interesting but to my mind do nothing but point out people haven't fixed the original problem).


It causes pre-ignition. You tend to get a pretty nasty rattle out of the engine when it starts after a dose of ether, and it's even worse on diesels.

daniel mason - 16/1/12 at 09:07 PM

i think its flooded also! will take plugs out this weekend and see what happens!

daviep - 16/1/12 at 09:34 PM

quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
quote:
Originally posted by coyoteboy
Out of interest, why is easy start hard on the engine (for the 2-3 cycles of fuelling each bore sees)? (genuinely curious, stories of engines getting addicted are interesting but to my mind do nothing but point out people haven't fixed the original problem).


It causes pre-ignition. You tend to get a pretty nasty rattle out of the engine when it starts after a dose of ether, and it's even worse on diesels.


Only if you use too much

Caterpillar heavy plant engines can be spec'ed with an ether cold starting aid for cold climates, big bottle of ether and a plunger to inject a measured dose straight in to the inlet manifold.

If it's fitted as standard by what is considered to be a reputable manufacturer of very reliable engines then I'm pretty sure they are confident that it does not cause engine damage.

The "addicted to" myth comes from people using it to start worn out diesel engines which when they stop using it are still worn out and still won't start - must have been the the easy start.

Davie

BenB - 16/1/12 at 10:11 PM

Yup, the easy start is the symptom of a knackered engine not the cause. They get "addicted" cos when it's the only thing which will start your engine it's the only thing which will start your engine

steve m - 16/1/12 at 10:38 PM

maybe you have the exhaust, bolted to th wrong side ?

James - 17/1/12 at 02:35 AM

quote:
Originally posted by steve m
maybe you have the exhaust, bolted to th wrong side ?


ROTFLMAO!!!

brookie - 17/1/12 at 07:13 PM

can u use easy start on bike engines then

daniel mason - 17/1/12 at 09:02 PM

youd better ask steve m! he will have an answer of some sort no doubt!