I would go also gixxer 1000 if on a Budget as big bhp bang for buck
[Edited on 15/7/13 by INDY BIRD]
im on the lookout for a 1000cc jap 4 pot bike engine for a new project ive hopefully got (the fury is getting collected tomorrow hopefully)
the project is a mid engined single seater which needs an engine swap,but for budget reasons will stay prop driven with a small prop to rear axle. its
exactly what ive been looking for since i entered the kit car scene a few years ago and hopefully ill be collecting it on wednesday. when i will then
release some more info and pics.
i have around £2500 for the complete install, including fabricating engine mounts,motor,sump,loom,ecu,power commander,exhaust etc so busas and the
like are out of the question. the car already has digi dash and sensors etc so no clocks needed.
what would you guys go for on this budget? reliable power is the key here and not maximum power.
im thinking R1 with 150-160 bhp and baffled sump must be as good as most? any other ideas
GSXR1000 K1/K2 + extreme engines baffle plate.
160 bhp and bags of grunt, treat it like you hate it and it still wants more, good strong gearbox too in my experience.
04-06 R1 should be doable for enough below that money to afford all the other bit's within budget. Should give you 160-170bhp. The 02-03 engines are getting harder to find these days.
ive found an 03 r1 with fresh rebuild from a jedi race car. kevlar clutch,sump baffle,ecu,airbox,power commander,exhaust,loom etc and at a good price!
but only put out 150 ish bhp 06 motors seem a bit more powerful
[Edited on 15/7/13 by daniel mason]
I'm guessing a spire then I'll see if I'm correct
I would go also gixxer 1000 if on a Budget as big bhp bang for buck
[Edited on 15/7/13 by INDY BIRD]
sean. totally wrong mate!
if you want details ill pm you them. as long as you dont pop over tomorrow and buy it instead!
its under £5k mate so not a radical either. but id imagine its a fair bit lighter than both, and dare i say it 'a better chassis'
I'm guessing this ADR
ADR
Hi dan
Iv got an 05 r1 complete with clocks,pump,wiring,ecu ready to run for £1,200
Let me know if your interested
Thanks
What about a 4xv motor for £700.
The later 'big bang' ones dont really make any more power. Its not my engine just one i've seen listed elsewhere.
I am interested when will we know?
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Originally posted by minitici
I'm guessing this ADR
ADR
I'm intrigued to what it is too...
I am still waiting for my old Spire GTR to make an appearance on this forum. It fits the description u gave certainly.....
SCOOOOOTZ!
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Originally posted by daniel mason
SCOOOOOTZ!
^^^^^
You're quite safe Dan. I'm having far too much fun zooming around on 2 wheels just and my bike is taking all my attention!
if its a jap 4 pot it will be just the job mate
i need a motor! as the ADR only has an old bmw 1000cc bike motor
what about this?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/370854023188?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
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Originally posted by franky
what about this?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/370854023188?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
There's a Rocket III on here somewhere, OK, it's not 1000cc..... but does it not have a prop output (that might turn the right way for the
diff, I don't know) and other simplifying things... along with a lot of torque.
Worth thinking about just for the hell of a uniqueness thing?
... and it has a dry-sump, so perfect for racetracks!
I suspect that Dan is probably restricted to a 1000c lump though due to racing categories.
Malc from yorkshire engines has a 2010 zx10r listed on ebay for 2k that I'm sure he will drop in price to deal direct. They make very good power 180bhp ish iirc. They are a light engine and don't require dry sumping.
thanks guys. some good food for thought there! do the zx10 not suffer from strange gear ratios? im sure ive heard they do!
In a single seater would you not be running a chain diff ie infinite choice of final drive? If your running a conventional diff then a 3.14 or freelander diff would prob suit. Although I'm sure there are people on here running the kwak with a 3.38 or 3.45 diff. I have a 3.15 lsd lurking in my garage for when my upgraditis kicks in and I finally buy a 10r engine.
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Originally posted by sdh2903
Malc from yorkshire engines has a 2010 zx10r listed on ebay for 2k that I'm sure he will drop in price to deal direct. They make very good power 180bhp ish iirc. They are a light engine and don't require dry sumping.
its track and sprint only so anything is possible if on budget!
car runs live axle rear end.
I've seen a few zx12 lumps going for 1200 ish that would leave a bit left over for the install. Similar bhp to the newer 10 but bit more torque and proven to be reliable. I think the final drive may be more suitable?
Hi
Ahh a customer of "Mr Healy, purveyor of quality automobiles" - his 'showroom' is an experience isn't it?
If you sprint it it'll be in Sports Libre, cc class splits vary a bit but normally it's up to 1700cc for club meetings and up to 2L for
National events, so pretty much any bike engine you like.
Think if you were to circuit race it then it would be 750mc BikeSports and there's classes in that to suit pretty much any cc.
The only thing I can think of that is a nominal max of 1000cc is RGB?? but even then I think you can run more but there's some odd BHP limit
thing??
The Reynard in my avatar runs a ZX10 lump, if the gearing is odd i've not noticed to be honest
Couple of comments above re dry sumps, while I would concour that a Dry Sump isn't essential, whatever you fit will need to be properly baffled,
especially as the engines longitudinal rather than the norm, mines baffled and has an accusump fitted and it's very surprising how often the
accusump operates - personally I think this might actually be a good all round 'belt and braces' solution for little extra money (Dry Sump
kits being more expensive than replacement engines, accusumps being a few hundred quid)
HTH
maybe so. ive been looking at the zx12 also but by the time i factor in. power commander,exhaust,gear indicator,sump mods etc it will end up a bit dear i think. unless someone has a full package for sale?
Hi
Thinking a bit further..
Given that it's probably not far off full working order under the layer of dust..
I would spend as little time as possible to get it up and running.
Get out there and give it a nice gentle shakedown, and then a couple of damn good thrashings..
Once you've done that and wandered round a few paddocks you'll come up with A Plan and a List which you can while away the winter hours
working your way through ready for next spring
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Originally posted by franky
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Originally posted by sdh2903
Malc from yorkshire engines has a 2010 zx10r listed on ebay for 2k that I'm sure he will drop in price to deal direct. They make very good power 180bhp ish iirc. They are a light engine and don't require dry sumping.
you should get one for £1.5k ish.
Why not fit a 1198 ducati lump. surely a 1.2ltr twin can race against a 1000cc 4 like in bike racing classes?
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the class changes at 1100 so he would be in with the big boys
Yes you are correct Jim
Spotted!
I was sat in a que on the southbound M6 a short while ago.
Heading northbound an ADR on a trailer, Number 50, fetching shade of purple, looks quite smart
colours not the best jim but its a superb machine. looks well made.a few bits i need to alter but on the whole am well chuffed at the price!
you were right about the unit. i had to swerve around about 50 x vw's to get near his unit
Hi
Excellent stuff, you'll have to keep us posted about when it's going to turn a wheel again in anger
someone has a new avatar, I bet you cannot wait
im just looking into engine options atm but the thing that slightly bothers me is the rear axle,which i believe is a morris 1000. and from scouring the net it seems the lowest diff ratio they did was a 3.72:1 which wont help matters much!
This thread needs photo's... lot's of 'em!
I Agree lets have um we like projects
there is a couple on my other thread about my new project