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1/8 NPT or M10x1?
JC - 10/11/17 at 02:01 PM

Hi all,

I have the temperature sensors that came with my Koso digidash. I thought (assumed) that they were M10x1 thread....

Unable to find sensibly priced inline housings in M10, I ordered 2 with 1/8 NPT thread and intended to use adapters from CBS. On a whim, I just tried the sensors and they fit quite nicely....

Is 1/8NPT very close to M10x1 i.e. could they feel like they fit when they don't?

Secondly, should I use PTFE tape on the thread as per domestic plumbing?

Thanks folks!

JC


neilp1 - 10/11/17 at 02:40 PM

I'd check with the manufacturer for the correct size is as 1/8" NPT is a tapered thread so you will get a start if it's in M10 but it wont seal.


voucht - 10/11/17 at 03:02 PM

Normally, M10x1.00 is a straight thread, and 1/8NPT if tapered. That should be enough to identify them. Although my hydraulic brake switch (from VW Beetle) has a tapered M10x1.00 thread, which is very odd and very unusual.

The complete name of 1/8NPT is "1/8x27". The "27" means "27 threads/inch".
M10x1.00 has 1 thread/mm, so 10 th./10mm.

I guess they can feel like they fit when they don't because they are very close to each other. 27 th./inch means 1 thread every 0.941mm.

If you have an accurate caliper, you can measure the distance between 2 threads. If it is exactly 1mm, it is M10x1.00, if it is a little bit less, it should be 1/8NPT.

Or you can count the number of threads on a 10mm length:
- If it is 1/8x27, you should count more than 10 threads on 10mm, actually, between 10 and 11 threads (10,63 to be exact)
- If it is M10x1.00, you should count exactly 10 threads on 10mm.

I doubt the threaded part of your sensor is long enough to count the number of thread on 1 inch, where you should find 27 threads if it is 1/8NPT and between 25 and 26 threads (25.4 to be exact) if it is M10x1.00

If your adaptor has a straight thread, a copper washer is enough to seal. If the thread is tapered, you must use Tefelon tape.

Hope that will help


JC - 10/11/17 at 03:53 PM

That’s perfect! Best counting glasses on then! Thanks!


Davedew - 10/11/17 at 05:27 PM

My Acewell dash came with an 1/8th NPT temp sensor.

Tapped an M10x1.0 hole and screwed it in with some PTFE tape.
Been like that for 3 years on the road and not a single problem.


russbost - 10/11/17 at 05:39 PM

The reason Acewell supply 1/8 x 27 npt is that being a tapered thread it is close enough to m10 x 1.0 & 3/8 x 24 that with ptfe tape, it will go into either & form it's own seal, you are basically doing the opposite putting a straight thread into a (very close in thread pitch) tapered hole, so, again as long as you use a few turns of PTFE I can't see why it wouldn't seal. If you are going to bother to try & measure then just measure the thread diameter, m10 x 1.0 is around 9.8mm, 3/8 x 24 is around 9.5mm & the tapered thread should be quite obviously tapered if measuring with any sort of accuracy at all - you should be able to visually see the taper quite clearly

HTH


JC - 11/11/17 at 05:14 PM

Thanks Russ, thanks all!

Amazing how often the bleedin obvious is staring you in the face and it takes the helpful hints on here to make you realise!

I took my calipers to the sensor but used them as paralle guides along the thread and yes, you guessed, its tapered! Problem solved, money saved!

Thanks again - at this rate I might have a running car soon.....

JC