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scootz

posted on 16/9/10 at 04:29 PM Reply With Quote
Red-Top Rocker Cover...

I've removed the baffle plate prior to sending the rocker-cover off for powder-coating... can anyone recommend 'goo' for sealing it when I re-fit?

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cd.thomson

posted on 16/9/10 at 04:35 PM Reply With Quote
whats the application? fwd/rwd/mid?





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scootz

posted on 16/9/10 at 04:35 PM Reply With Quote
Same as yours... front engine - RWD.





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mcerd1

posted on 16/9/10 at 05:38 PM Reply With Quote
what stuff do they normaly use ?
(I sure Ian Glass will have what ever that is)





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scootz

posted on 16/9/10 at 05:39 PM Reply With Quote
Dunno... its plenty sticky whatever it is, but not so strong as to cause damage to the baffle when removing.





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mcerd1

posted on 16/9/10 at 05:43 PM Reply With Quote
I'd just ask at Glass's if it was me
(but then there parts desk is only 50 yards from my house )





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scootz

posted on 16/9/10 at 05:45 PM Reply With Quote
I'll go and see them tomorrow!

Forgot we had an ickle main-dealer in our midst!





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mcerd1

posted on 16/9/10 at 05:52 PM Reply With Quote
^^ and they are cheaper than the ones in town (£55/h instead of £90/h at seafield)
and I heard they were selling twice as many new cars too...

just a pitty I don't have any vauxhalls

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cd.thomson

posted on 16/9/10 at 05:58 PM Reply With Quote
http://www.sbdev.co.uk/Info_sheets/Oil_systems/2.0L%2016v%20SBD%20Cam%20cover%20breathing%20modification.htm





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scootz

posted on 16/9/10 at 06:09 PM Reply With Quote
Cheers Craig... hadn't seen that before!

I note they suggest venting... at present I have a catch-tank, but it's location is a PITA. What difference would it make just using a small breather-filter... other than the fine oil mist getting spat out in the engine-bay!





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perksy

posted on 16/9/10 at 06:21 PM Reply With Quote
Carry out the SBD Cam cover Mod as suggested on their website

You Don't need to apply any sealant to whats left when you refit it, as there won't be that much left anyway
Would be a good idea to Loctite the bolts holding the remains of the Baffle plate in though

Catch tank would be a good idea as with just a small filter in the cam cover if it breathes reasonably heavy you'll geta fine mist in the engine bay

It might sound Daft but make sure the Powdercoater only coats the outside of the Cam cover
There were a few on ebay that had been coated All over and the Powdercoating had flaked off on the inside of the cover and blown somebodys engine



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scootz

posted on 16/9/10 at 06:23 PM Reply With Quote
Cheers Perksy... what does the mod actually?





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cd.thomson

posted on 16/9/10 at 06:28 PM Reply With Quote
the mod is the one ive linked scott. Yeah I've seen people put little filters on the outlet and I've just routed mine underneath the car.





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perksy

posted on 16/9/10 at 06:32 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scootz
Cheers Perksy... what does the mod actually?


The Mod will stop excess oil being being 'blown' out by the engine
We're using it for RWD whereas originally it was FWD

The SBD site has some very good info' and is well worth a look around

Worth running a Catch tank if you intend to do Track days
But also worth doing as you will soon notice if the engine is starting to breathe heavier then normal


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scootz

posted on 16/9/10 at 06:34 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks guys!





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stevepj

posted on 17/9/10 at 07:38 AM Reply With Quote
I'm running a red top and did the cam cover mod, ran it for two years and had to empty the catch tank a couple of times- its only a small drinks bottle.
Then I had a think about the science of the mod - the plate was sealed in as part of the emissions control, oil vapour from the block/sump was drawn via the cam cover to the inlet manifold and burnt in the engine. If you remove the plate as per SBD the crankcase pressure rises up the breather tube as normal, but then it is allowed to flow across the cams before blowing out of the cam cover outlets, picking up oil spray and vapour on the way across.
3000 miles ago I put the plate back in, no sealant used and so far have only got about a quarter of an inch of oil in the catch bottle, and less smell of oil too.
The mod was designed for race/track cars, the oil surge they talk about can only happen after you've hammered it hard and fast enough into a right hander to cause the oil to rise the twelve inches up the breather from sump to cam cover.

So I would say track do the mod, road take the plate out clean it all and replace, sealant if you want to, but definitely thread lock the screws - you don't want one of them coming out and causing havoc.

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