littlefeller
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| posted on 14/5/11 at 08:28 PM |
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engine weight?
anybody know the weight of a h22a vtec engne and gearbox?
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daniel mason
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| posted on 14/5/11 at 08:35 PM |
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no but my f20c with rwd box was not light. tall engines!
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littlefeller
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| posted on 14/5/11 at 08:38 PM |
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which box did you use? does the f engines crank run the other way like the h22?
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daniel mason
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| posted on 14/5/11 at 08:43 PM |
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f20c has rear drive box so im using that. it spins the correct way but im also using the s2000 diff and shortened propshaft
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littlefeller
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| posted on 14/5/11 at 08:52 PM |
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shame, still trying to figure how to use the h22 as rwd without doing a complete mid engine build, although i do like the idea of the mid, but dont
really have the funds for a complete build
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daniel mason
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| posted on 14/5/11 at 08:57 PM |
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sell the engine mate. its not really an option,in my opinion.
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littlefeller
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| posted on 14/5/11 at 09:01 PM |
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cant sell it, it takes me to work everyday
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daniel mason
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| posted on 14/5/11 at 09:08 PM |
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so you dont need to use it then. get a cheap 2.0 zetec or something and use that. a good budget option.
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littlefeller
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| posted on 14/5/11 at 09:24 PM |
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after owning many fords (wish i had kept my siera in the guarage now instead of scrapping it a few years back) and now my honda of many years there
just is no comparison. still not giving up yet, although if i do buy a cheaper option i would prob get lazy and just use it with the ford engine. my
last ford wore a cam chain shaped hole in the block
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daniel mason
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| posted on 14/5/11 at 09:34 PM |
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the honda engines are great.there was only ever one option for me once i saw pwl's mnr.i had to go the s2000 route. i bought a damaged 2003 car
with 25,000 miles for just over £3k. i have easily re-couped £1.5k and still have loads of bits left. so i have the complete steering wheel/column
adapted to suit the mnr,diff,drive shafts,prop shaft,handbrake,engine/loom,and gearbox for under £1.5k so id say bang for buck its a great and
viable option. you can easily pay £1.5k for a bike motor + £500 for reverse box + power commander so i think ie done ok
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littlefeller
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| posted on 14/5/11 at 09:45 PM |
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thats a good option (s2000). there getting cheaper too. what sort of size are they?. there a lot of parts you could use from a s2000. i must admit the
reliability of my honda is second to none, its fun to drive too which is why i wanted to use as a donor. i supose the answer to this is to have
a programable valve train for the ford engine - does such a thing exist?
ok just seen the size of the s2000 in your pics, wonder why more builders are not using these motors
[Edited on 14/5/11 by littlefeller]
[Edited on 14/5/11 by littlefeller]
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Rocket_Rabbit
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| posted on 14/5/11 at 10:29 PM |
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I have an S2000 that would be perfect to you. 2000 JDM spec (Higher power engine - higher comp ratio) car that has done 58000 miles (The 20,000 miles
of which I owned it, it had about 5 engine oil & filter changes on Castrol edge and 3 gearbox/diff oil changes, plus all bolts greased, tappets
done etc etc all documented too). The JDM will offer you up less wiring issues because it negates a factory immobiliser and certain sensors.
Car is complete (minus seats), drives (No MOT or Tax) and could be yours for £3650.
Let me know if you're interested
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franky
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| posted on 15/5/11 at 12:14 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by littlefeller
thats a good option (s2000). there getting cheaper too. what sort of size are they?. there a lot of parts you could use from a s2000. i must admit the
reliability of my honda is second to none, its fun to drive too which is why i wanted to use as a donor. i supose the answer to this is to have
a programable valve train for the ford engine - does such a thing exist?
ok just seen the size of the s2000 in your pics, wonder why more builders are not using these motors
[Edited on 14/5/11 by littlefeller]
[Edited on 14/5/11 by littlefeller]
People don't like using motors that are not normally installed. Its great news though as it makes awesome engines affordable options.
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Bare
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| posted on 15/5/11 at 02:28 AM |
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You can instantly tell which way your Honda engine rotates simply by opening the engine compartment lid and looking :-)
The Correct rotation (for rear wheel drive) Is when the transmission/clutch end faces the right hand side of the car, when standing directly in
front of the car.
Previous (*before 2006) Honda engines had the trans on the left side .
S2000 is a Very Tall engine, problematically so, IMO and it's also a surprisingly heavy Lump.
Frankly I'd opt for a Saab turbo unit in preference...Much More power.. similar (arguably less) weight and almost free to buy as bonus.
ECU remapping of the Very sophisticated Saab Trionc is a doddle and Freely available as DIY.
[Edited on 15/5/11 by Bare]
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littlefeller
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| posted on 15/5/11 at 06:41 AM |
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the thing with the vtec is you dont have to use the vtec unless you want too, with fuel prices the way they are its a great bonus, bit like having a
turbo you can toggle on and off. my kit needs to be a daily drive not just for the odd summer day. if it was then engine choice would be endless maybe
even a nissan turbo engine and drive, or maybe a mid using the mr2 turbo. but as fuel prices just keep rising a turbos are out. i once managed 40mpg
in my honda, although i was using cruse controll going down the m5 to exeter. though this is one thing going for the ford option, my old siera was
quite economical with the dohc efi engine.
mine is defo on the left as it was built in 1992, but still only has around 100k but this is in km not miles.
[Edited on 15/5/11 by littlefeller]
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daniel mason
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| posted on 15/5/11 at 09:43 AM |
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the s2000 lump fits the mnr easily and the bonnet goes on with no mods whatsoever. groung clearence is also very good, (better than my R1 engined car
i had previously.) so its not problematic at all. i would rather use the f20c than any saab lump.they are a very advanced engine,and sream like hell
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nz_climber
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| posted on 9/6/11 at 12:09 PM |
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If you want a honda engine, the K20 or K22 engines are an option, they spin the right way, and I know the maker of a cast gearbox bellhousing that
currently fits a toyota w series, and in the process of modifying it for a type 9/quaife.
http://aarons7.wordpress.com
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