locost15
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| posted on 24/8/11 at 02:43 PM |
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What’s the best pre-80’s engine
Hi guys,
I have a replica lotus 11 / 15 I’ve been working on it for years, its a early Ron Champion project (+/- 1988) so basically a book chassis with
extension and a very early extended Lotus 15 body... GTS Engineering offer the latest development.
Anyway I’m thinking again of engine choice, I would like a pre 80’s engine and box, the easiest route is a Ford 1600cc with 4 speed; but also thinking
- Jaguar 6 cylinder - too big
- Lotus Eclat 2.0 twin cam – measured too big
- Lotus / Ford twink – I fear for the price
- 1275 A series – very expensive to tune and also becoming expensive to buy
- Triumph ?
- Fiat twin cam – know nothing about them..
- And of course the Coventry Climax – way out of budget
Its fitted with Triumph suspension, steering and Ford rear axle, Now as I live in Belgium and need to registrar it locally I should stick to a old
engine.....
Any ideas ...
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alistairolsen
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| posted on 24/8/11 at 02:48 PM |
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depending on the rules, find a 2.0 8v vauxhall block and a manta gearbox and then rebuilt it with an XE head and internals :p
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 24/8/11 at 02:51 PM |
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Daimler V8 if the Jag S6 is too big/heavy
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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britishtrident
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| posted on 24/8/11 at 03:06 PM |
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Leaving the obvious Xflo, Pinto, Valencia aside for now. The early CVH is out of it as it came out in 1980.
Best bet is a BMC A series Marina cheap enough too tune if you don't want enormous power
Chrysler Sunbeam 928cc engine & box --- rare but very light most of the hot Imp bits can be fitted.
Chrysler Averger engine
Climax fire pump engines are relative cheap to buy but expensive to mod for use in a car.
The 1500 Triumph engines have fragile bottom ends, smaller versions less of a problem.
The BMC B series is goo but big and heavy and the BL 1700 O series only came out in late 1980.
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johnq
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| posted on 24/8/11 at 03:21 PM |
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i am building a similar project but have not yet soursed a body/no money, but would like some pics of your chassis/extensions etc, sincerely john,
looks like rain again
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johnq
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| posted on 24/8/11 at 03:24 PM |
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to add to my last post ,i would consider a crossflow or even a pre crossflow would suit the car and chassis setup,
looks like rain again
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whitestu
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| posted on 24/8/11 at 03:40 PM |
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Fiat / Lancia twin cam would be my choice.
Stu
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Surrey Dave
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| posted on 24/8/11 at 04:12 PM |
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'A' series, Ford Crossflow, Ford Pre Crossflow
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JimSpencer
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| posted on 24/8/11 at 04:20 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by whitestu
Fiat / Lancia twin cam would be my choice.
Stu
Yup, and me.. a 70's lump c.w five speed box, RWD as it comes, and sometimes with a nice pair of webbers too, sound lovely..
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Volvorsport
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| posted on 24/8/11 at 05:00 PM |
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youll find plenty of old volvo engines in belgium.....
www.dbsmotorsport.co.uk
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Ivan
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| posted on 24/8/11 at 05:27 PM |
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I would go for an early twincam 1600 alfa engine - very reliable, light and has twin sidedafts - assuming you can find one of course. Another truly
great engine is the Renault Gordini 1300 (also very light) which is also an incredible engine that comes standard with twin sidedrafts (mine would rev
to 8750 RPM) - it's the only engine I ever had that had static timing set at TDC - maybe because it had a pre-combustion chamber with nozzles
firing into the main combustion chamber - similar to some deisels I believe.
Another great engine is the BMW motor from the 2002 models.
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coozer
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| posted on 24/8/11 at 05:38 PM |
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900 Fireblade??
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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scudderfish
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| posted on 24/8/11 at 06:16 PM |
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Rover V8! 
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Kwik
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| posted on 24/8/11 at 07:15 PM |
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A series if you want to keep plugging up oil leaks...
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JC
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| posted on 24/8/11 at 07:22 PM |
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If you want a Coventry Climax, hunt out a Green Goddess Fire engine - the water pumps used Climax engines that can be adapted for use!
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imp paul
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| posted on 24/8/11 at 07:50 PM |
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what about lotus sunbeam 2.3 engine twin cam monster i would stay clear of A series its a lead balloon with a crap gear box i know as i have few jk
gear boxes oops lol
[Edited on 24/8/11 by imp paul]
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iank
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| posted on 24/8/11 at 07:54 PM |
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Hillman Imp engine is a development of, and very similar to, the Climax. But probably not a very practical choice compared to others on your list.
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thunderace
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| posted on 24/8/11 at 08:10 PM |
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bda BDD BDG engine.all around £20k
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Confused but excited.
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| posted on 24/8/11 at 08:42 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by whitestu
Fiat / Lancia twin cam would be my choice.
Stu
+2 The Fiat twink is easily obtainable, cheap and eminently tunable.
Tell them about the bent treacle edges!
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locost15
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| posted on 25/8/11 at 10:15 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Confused but excited.
quote:
Originally posted by whitestu
Fiat / Lancia twin cam would be my choice.
Stu
+2 The Fiat twink is easily obtainable, cheap and eminently tunable.
Thanks for the input, I rather fancy a fiat / lancia twin cam... any ideas where to start looking apart from fleebay... I'll also need a
gearbox....
Or it will be a Ford 1600 which is a little boring (sorry don't want to offend) everything else is heavy, poor on power or massive money...
cheers Matt
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whitestu
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| posted on 25/8/11 at 10:44 AM |
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Rusty Lancia Betas are a good source of engines. Thye still come up cheaply every so often.
Fiat 124's have RWD boxes but pretty rare now. Another option is a type 9 with an appropriate bellhousing.
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bartonp
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| posted on 25/8/11 at 10:58 AM |
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Lancia 1300 V4 DOHC (just to be different)
[Edited on 25/8/11 by bartonp]
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blakep82
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| posted on 25/8/11 at 11:08 AM |
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small block chevy V8, obviously
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nz_climber
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| posted on 28/8/11 at 09:26 AM |
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why not look to the Japanese, Toyota T series engines, or R series or Kseries are about the vintage you are after.. all of which have rwd gearboxes
available..
[Edited on 28/8/11 by nz_climber]
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probablyleon
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| posted on 28/8/11 at 10:57 AM |
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I needed to rebuild my fiat twincam a few years back and found the parts very tricky / expensive to come by (standard parts being almost impossible).
I really liked the engine but for this reason alone wouldn't go there again. Long gone are the days where Fiat/Lancia TCs offered cheap thrills.
Its mostly just Fiat/Lancia enthusiasts, that have to take this route these days. If you do decide to go down this path make sure you talk to Guy
Croft, (he's one of the main, if not only) people still seriously tuning them. Just to make sure you can stomach the prices associated.
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