ian locostzx9rc2
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| posted on 29/8/14 at 05:47 AM |
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Fisher fury on eBay bargain for somebody
Yellow fisher fury on e bay If I had the room I would buy it location York,don't know how to link to e bay..
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adithorp
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| posted on 29/8/14 at 06:50 AM |
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This one?...
Fisher Fury 1998 1.8l Zetec Le Mans Bonnet
That does look a bargain.
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
http://jpsc.org.uk/forum/
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garyo
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| posted on 29/8/14 at 10:29 AM |
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Doesn't 120bhp seem a little low for a bike carbed 1.8 - maybe that's at the wheels?
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Ugg10
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| posted on 29/8/14 at 12:14 PM |
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It may be one of the 105hp escort engines that has not had the 130hp cams changed.
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1968 Ford Anglia 105e, 1.7 Zetec SE, Mk2 Escort Workd Cup front end, 5 link rear
Build Blog - http://Anglia1968.weebly.com
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alfas
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| posted on 1/9/14 at 01:12 PM |
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if it would be a real bargain, it would have been sold already...tyres are decades old....strange (unpainted, rusty) welding constuction near door
hinges..engine sits, imo, a bit too far at front..., why the chassis, incl. suspension parts AND all bolts/nuts/washers are painted black??
it doesnt cost a fortune but 3k would be the right price....
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micksalt
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| posted on 1/9/14 at 02:57 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by alfas
if it would be a real bargain, it would have been sold already...tyres are decades old....strange (unpainted, rusty) welding constuction near door
hinges..engine sits, imo, a bit too far at front..., why the chassis, incl. suspension parts AND all bolts/nuts/washers are painted black??
it doesnt cost a fortune but 3k would be the right price....
Wow, second JP car for sale that you've rubbished in as many weeks. Do you have a vested interest in keeping resale values down?
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adithorp
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| posted on 1/9/14 at 03:50 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by micksalt
quote:
Originally posted by alfas
if it would be a real bargain, it would have been sold already...tyres are decades old....strange (unpainted, rusty) welding constuction near door
hinges..engine sits, imo, a bit too far at front..., why the chassis, incl. suspension parts AND all bolts/nuts/washers are painted black??
it doesnt cost a fortune but 3k would be the right price....
Wow, second JP car for sale that you've rubbished in as many weeks. Do you have a vested interest in keeping resale values down?
...and a lot more over the years.
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
http://jpsc.org.uk/forum/
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alfablack
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| posted on 1/9/14 at 09:37 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by alfas
if it would be a real bargain, it would have been sold already...tyres are decades old....strange (unpainted, rusty) welding constuction near door
hinges..engine sits, imo, a bit too far at front..., why the chassis, incl. suspension parts AND all bolts/nuts/washers are painted black??
it doesnt cost a fortune but 3k would be the right price....
imo where would you put the engine seen as it is already touching the end of the drivers footwell have you ever seen a fury close up.
and if it was yours would you want 3k or more ? so what is your workmanship like glass houses mate
this site is starting to get some complete ? on
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alfas
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| posted on 2/9/14 at 07:24 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by micksalt
quote:
Originally posted by alfas
if it would be a real bargain, it would have been sold already...tyres are decades old....strange (unpainted, rusty) welding constuction near door
hinges..engine sits, imo, a bit too far at front..., why the chassis, incl. suspension parts AND all bolts/nuts/washers are painted black??
it doesnt cost a fortune but 3k would be the right price....
Wow, second JP car for sale that you've rubbished in as many weeks. Do you have a vested interest in keeping resale values down?
if somebody is posting a car for sale comments will follow...positive & negative.
and free speach means: sometimes you will hear things which dont sound right in everybodies ears.
[Edited on 2/9/14 by alfas]
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Andy S
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| posted on 2/9/14 at 07:32 AM |
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May not be running a mapped ignition which may be holding back a few horses.
The Autotune Gemini over the border also looks a decent proposition.
quote:
Originally posted by garyo
Doesn't 120bhp seem a little low for a bike carbed 1.8 - maybe that's at the wheels?
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alfas
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| posted on 2/9/14 at 05:15 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Andy S
May not be running a mapped ignition which may be holding back a few horses.
i also thought it might only run using Ford“s Edis...which would be a shame...poor acceleration, poor horsepower....
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alfas
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| posted on 2/9/14 at 06:48 PM |
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quote:
imo where would you put the engine seen as it is already touching the end of the drivers footwell have you ever seen a fury close up.
and if it was yours would you want 3k or more ? so what is your workmanship like glass houses mate
this site is starting to get some complete ? on
yep..i know those chassis...if you put the engine slightly to the left, slightly deform the drviers footwell you can get the engine further back.
[Edited on 2/9/14 by alfas]
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dickie b
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| posted on 2/9/14 at 07:42 PM |
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Eh? What on earth??
It's a ROAD CAR : such steps may shave of vital seconds on a track weapon.. but makes sod all difference to a car like this for general
driving.
It appears a nicely done kit car at a decent price. Worth 4k all day long.
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alfas
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| posted on 2/9/14 at 08:09 PM |
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old tyres
strange door hinge construction..or whatever it is
ignition eventually not mapable-->low on power
some minor body / paint damage
weather gear which doesnt fit
"undersealed" chassis---not very nice on a kitcar, nor necessary or done because it was used all year round --> means attention to the
chassis!!
a bit untidy enginebay
bonnet inside looks a bit botched togehter
front brake calipers looks like the right one is painted silver, left one not
exhaust manifold "only" in mild steel
none of the above mentioned things are very serious, but all togehter drop the price.
its not too much overpriced, but the kitcar season is nearly over, kitcar market is down anyway and ,imo, 4k would buy a better car..if you have time
searching the web...
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dickie b
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| posted on 2/9/14 at 08:32 PM |
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Well I am biased being a Fury owner.. I personally value them higher as I like them (plus anything from the Sylva stable).
But as a seasoned watcher of Furys for sale i would suggest they tend to command a higher price regardless of the sum of their parts in relation to
other cars (same as the price strata of all seven replicas). They are rarer too being a full bodywork roadster.
I don't think that this car would ever make you money but I don't think you would ever lose any either!
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alfas
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| posted on 3/9/14 at 05:58 PM |
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i“am also a bit sylva/fisher biased..driving those cars since years and i always wonder why sylva“s can be bought so cheap, compared to other
kitcars.
lets take a striker:
you can buy a perfect, low mileage live-axle striker for less /same money than a scruffy westfield with same technical spec.
and the striker does everything better than the westfield.
3.5k for a near perfect striker is possible..whereas a 3.5k westfield always shows its age.
its similar with fisher“s:
you get a nice (as new) IRS fury built somewhere in the 2000“s with a good technical spec for 5-6k
why should you buy a 4k car with some problems?
and i must repeat again: if the 4k car would be such a good bargain it would have been already sold on the first day advertized.
[Edited on 3/9/14 by alfas]
[Edited on 3/9/14 by alfas]
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Andy S
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| posted on 3/9/14 at 06:43 PM |
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Westfield have concentrated on a single model (more or less) and have offered factory finished cars to very high specifications establishing a visible
and established brand with identifiable published values. The minimum standard base vehicle being of a comparably high standard.
Sylva, Fisher, Raw, etc. have never achieved this leaving cars finished to highly variable standards allowing no real comparisons and therefore
values.
In short many people know what a Westfield SEiW Zetec is and where values are. - What is a Fisher Fury / Raw Striker etc. only a few enthusiasts
provide variable and optimistic values. WSCC - big established club supporting the marque offering a social aspect. - The Raw Sylva JPSC is just
fractured and spread around the new on this and other boards.
And you could go on.
As for the Yellow car on eBay - at first glance it looks a good value if you make certain assumptions - on close scrutiny it rather falls short. £4K
then becomes less attractive and no one will argue that you could sink £1500 into it pretty quickly with little return Its okay but its no never to be
missed bargain. Supporters will argue that's not what ownership is about but a buyer you need to have some confidence about value and resale
and this car and the marque in general does not provide it.
Then again the market for lesser obvious kits is pretty depressed at present.
Would I spend £4K on it - No
quote:
Originally posted by alfas
i always wonder since years why sylva“s can be bought so cheap, compared to other kitcars.
lets take a striker:
you can buy a perfect, low mileage live-axle striker for less /same money than a scruffy westfield with same technical spec.
and the striker does everything better than the westfield.
3.5k for a near perfect striker is possible..whereas a 3.5k westfield always shows its age.
its similar with fisher“s:
you get a nice (as new) IRS fury built somewhere in the 2000“s with a good technical spec for 5-6k
why should you buy a 4k car with some problems?
and i must repeat again: if the 4k car would be such a good bargain it would have been already sold on the first day advertized.
[Edited on 3/9/14 by alfas]
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alfas
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| posted on 3/9/14 at 06:56 PM |
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quote:
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As for the Yellow car on eBay - at first glance it looks a good value if you make certain assumptions - on close scrutiny it rather falls short. £4K
then becomes less attractive and no one will argue that you could sink £1500 into it pretty quickly with little return Its okay but its no never to be
missed bargain. Supporters will argue that's not what ownership is about but a buyer you need to have some confidence about value and resale
and this car and the marque in general does not provide it.
Then again the market for lesser obvious kits is pretty depressed at present.
Would I spend £4K on it - No
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good said...exactly my thinking, too!!!
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Dopdog
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| posted on 4/9/14 at 06:18 AM |
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I would love to see a few pictures of alfas car, then we could all admire it with him it must best one of the best kits around. Come on stand up and
be counted
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ian locostzx9rc2
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| posted on 4/9/14 at 06:29 AM |
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Me too?
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alfablack
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| posted on 4/9/14 at 06:52 AM |
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I will go along with that.
And if he knows what a fury is he would know why the hinge brackets are there.
The ecs unit if that is what it is the grasstrack boys ran them and by changing the resistance of tge air temp altered the advance curve.
And at the end of the day what forum are you on. Or is it he as a car running for little outlay and a bit of enginuity instead of spending minimum a
grand
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Andy S
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| posted on 4/9/14 at 07:53 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by alfablack
The ecs unit if that is what it is the grasstrack boys ran them and by changing the resistance of tge air temp altered the advance curve.
That conjured up an image for me of a grass track racer bouncing round a curve whilst trying to turn a knob on the steering wheel marked
'advance' like the original early 1900's quadrant devices  Or Lewis Hamilton radioing his pit to ask if it was the red one or the
blue one and pit engineer turning to his neighbor and saying who he the feck does he think I am Morpheus!
I too would like to see Alfas car. - do we need a poll - LOL
Every good discussion needs at least two sides to get to a definitive result and you need antagonists like Alfa's to liven up the debate once an
a while.
[Edited on 4/9/14 by Andy S]
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dhutch
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| posted on 4/9/14 at 12:00 PM |
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While we're here, and because the Fury has always interested me, what do people think of the black car currently on ebay? Just down the road
from the yellow one, in Leeds rather than York.
FISHER FURY 2010 - FORD 1600 CROSSFLOW POWER
I cant actually find may (any) other Furys for sale at the moment.
Daniel
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Andy S
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| posted on 4/9/14 at 01:10 PM |
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Black Fury,
What I personally think is.
Mine is for sale on Pistonheads so you did not look too hard. or have I removed it as it's under offer.
As for making comment on that car and this is all purely personal taste.
I have never liked the look of the Le Mans bonnet - it ruins the look of a Fury.
The Crossflow would not provide enough power for me and the economy would be disappointing.
I would have to change the wheels.
I dislike Red interiors in Black cars and likewise Red seatbelts.
£5.5K - why not, but it would not be my money.
Different strokes for different folks.
Feel free to comment on mine if you wish.
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/kit-cars/fisher/fisher-fury-spyder/2309298?isexperiment=true
Or the Fury we are rebuilding at the moment with the Mazda. That will be up for sale soon enough. At £5K it would be a relative bargain  LOL
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alfas
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| posted on 4/9/14 at 08:45 PM |
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you asked for pics?
ok..here we go..one of my cars:
[Edited on 4/9/14 by alfas]
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