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bart

posted on 9/1/18 at 08:09 PM Reply With Quote
MMMM just thinking

been a bit bored
had a hart attack in November so was just thinking like !
just an idea
yes heavily influenced by other cars .
its a Toyota 2zz engine and gearbox
weight target 520 kg road legal

just  thinking
just thinking


any thoughts Ladies and Gents and those not sure





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JC

posted on 9/1/18 at 08:34 PM Reply With Quote
Looks good to me!!!
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SJ

posted on 9/1/18 at 08:39 PM Reply With Quote
quote:

Looks good to me!!!



Me too but maybe a push bike would be a better option!

Get well soon!

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bart

posted on 9/1/18 at 08:47 PM Reply With Quote
lol
yep walking 2 to 3 mile a day
and eating like a rabbit
whish I was doing other things like a rabbit.





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jossey

posted on 9/1/18 at 10:09 PM Reply With Quote
Glad your recovering mate car looks good. Would be good to have the engine a bit further forward.





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bart

posted on 9/1/18 at 10:39 PM Reply With Quote
moving engine forward

thanks for the comments.
would love to move the engine forward , but restricted
by position of output shafts from the gearbox
I could move it maybe 20 to 30 mm forward as at the moment it dead central with the gearbox output and wheel ctr.
move more than 20 to 30mm and I think it would put to much strain on the shaft joints
I can tilt it 1 maybe 2 degrees but think that's it.
I was going to shove a lot of stuff forward to get more weight towards the middle ie battery ect.
minimal design and complication was what I was going for
was originally going for 450 kg. but having calculated it that's out should end up around 500 to 550 kg probably 520 dry tank
still just a design exercise at the moment





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Ugg10

posted on 10/1/18 at 06:49 AM Reply With Quote
Isn’t the latest MeV exo car designed to take the Toyota engine?





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Camber Dave

posted on 10/1/18 at 08:29 AM Reply With Quote
With all mid engine projects, I would recommend doing a weight distribution exercise.
Get lots of weight to the front, adjust wheelbase, get fuel tank @ Cof G.
Those that work best have more than 40% on the front axle with driver obviously.
From Weight distribution you can select tyre size and then suspension.

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nick205

posted on 10/1/18 at 09:12 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bart
thanks for the comments.
would love to move the engine forward , but restricted
by position of output shafts from the gearbox
I could move it maybe 20 to 30 mm forward as at the moment it dead central with the gearbox output and wheel ctr.
move more than 20 to 30mm and I think it would put to much strain on the shaft joints
I can tilt it 1 maybe 2 degrees but think that's it.
I was going to shove a lot of stuff forward to get more weight towards the middle ie battery ect.
minimal design and complication was what I was going for
was originally going for 450 kg. but having calculated it that's out should end up around 500 to 550 kg probably 520 dry tank
still just a design exercise at the moment


Have you considered an Audi engine and gearbox?

Longitudinal and probably a bit longer overall, but relatively cheap and may give a better balance to the car.

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bart

posted on 10/1/18 at 11:06 PM Reply With Quote
looked at Audi and Subaru
all to long and the boxes stick well out the back.
nice thought though





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loggyboy

posted on 11/1/18 at 09:41 AM Reply With Quote
Angle the uprights parts of the chassis back about 15 degrees, especially the rollbar, will make it look a lot more 'sleek'. Looks a little utilitarian at the moment.

Will also want either a bulge outwards in the top horizontal (or a drop) to allow elbow room.

[Edited on 11-1-18 by loggyboy]





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Ugg10

posted on 11/1/18 at 09:50 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ugg10
Isn’t the latest MeV exo car designed to take the Toyota engine?


Found the reference for this, longer ago than I thought but may be worth a chat to them, if they have done the work then why re-invent the wheel -

http://www.totalkitcar.com/2016/06/09/onwards-and-upwards/





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bart

posted on 11/1/18 at 10:47 AM Reply With Quote
i need clarification on "angle back"
I am under the impression that to comply with blue book the roll bar has to be vertical
if I'm wrong let me know please as I original designed the chassis with a 10 deg reverse angle and it did look much better.
I will admit I tend to design for function rather than style !





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ianhurley20

posted on 13/1/18 at 09:17 AM Reply With Quote
Have a look at

http://midlana.com/

I like the Midlana roll cage






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