eddie
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 posted on 19/9/03 at 06:45 PM |
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Pinto 205 block, what makes them so special????
clues in the question....
plus what did they come from????
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rell
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| posted on 19/9/03 at 06:58 PM |
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the cortina and capri blocks were cast thin but the 205 block was cast thicker so you can bore it out to 93mm even 94 at a push (race engine what will
not do very many miles). 
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eddie
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| posted on 19/9/03 at 07:10 PM |
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what cars did they fit them to???
and how can you tell them apart????
[Edited on 19/9/03 by eddie]
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rell
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| posted on 19/9/03 at 07:19 PM |
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sierras and transits (some older sierras blocks are still the old block)
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chrisg
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| posted on 19/9/03 at 07:19 PM |
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The big "205" cast on the side is a bit of a clue, 89 onwards 2.0 litre Sierras and Granadas
Cheers
Chris
Note to all: I really don't know when to leave well alone. I tried to get clever with the mods, then when they gave me a lifeline to see the
error of my ways, I tried to incite more trouble via u2u. So now I'm banned, never to return again. They should have done it years ago!
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Browser
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| posted on 19/9/03 at 08:13 PM |
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Hasn't someone else asked about this recently? The 205 block grew out of the Sierra Cosworth project, as the original cars used standard Pinto
engine blocks which proved to be a little weak in some areas (suprise suprise!) and so Cosworth modified the design of the block slightly to the 205,
and Ford adopted it as their standard item.
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eddie
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| posted on 20/9/03 at 11:10 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by chrisg
The big "205" cast on the side is a bit of a clue,
Ho Ho Ho
OK some of us are less familiar with ford products (mis-spending our youth on 'A Series' power such as mini's and the likes)
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 20/9/03 at 05:19 PM |
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Eddie,
Basically, look for a 2.0i Sierra, I think they all had 205's and an unleaded head.
I am still trying to find out the safe rev limit for one in standard trim - my lowered EFI thingy will increase the revs at which peak power will be
produced - just hope is is below the safe rev limit!
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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VinceGledhill
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| posted on 3/10/03 at 04:13 PM |
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According to book I've just bought "How to power tune Ford OHC Pinto.... etc..." by Des Hamil. The bigest weak point on the 2.0
pinto is the Con rods which are reliable to about 6,700 RPM. So looks to me that a rev limiter set to 6500 would be about right.
Regards
Vince Gledhill
Time Served Auto Electrician
Lucas Leeds 1979-1983
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James
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| posted on 3/10/03 at 04:33 PM |
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http://www.pumaracing.co.uk/pinto.htm
Has some inteesting stuff about it.
HTH,
James
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ned
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| posted on 3/10/03 at 04:47 PM |
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vince, might want it a bit lower for reliability, incase you miss a gear or are going for it big time on downshift!
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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VinceGledhill
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| posted on 4/10/03 at 06:00 PM |
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Good point well made Mr Flanders.
Regards
Vince Gledhill
Time Served Auto Electrician
Lucas Leeds 1979-1983
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steve m
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| posted on 5/10/03 at 02:12 AM |
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6500 rpm ??
to low for me
8000, on a xflow was good
for 5 seconds then "bang"
lots of smoke tho
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 5/10/03 at 08:27 PM |
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I considered using a Fiat FIRE engine for a while, if you used the cam and carb from a 4x4 (low compression and long duration for torque) in the high
compression Uno/Panda unit, it has about 65BHP, revs to 8000 freely and will do this reliably all day, is light enough to put in the car by hand, just
couldn't find a gearbox to mate it to - perhap Nick davidson knows one?
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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accident
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| posted on 9/10/03 at 12:59 AM |
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as an answer to "whats so special about a 205 block?"
NOTHING!.
the 205 block is just as weak and weady as all the other pinto blocks that preceded it.
the 200 block was quite good(4x4 cossie)it had thick enough walls on all the bores
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ChrisW
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| posted on 9/10/03 at 07:24 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by VinceGledhill
The bigest weak point on the 2.0 pinto is the Con rods which are reliable to about 6,700 RPM.
Was going to say the same thing - can't remember where I read it tho (havn't got the book you mention)
Chris
[Edited on 9/10/03 by ChrisW]
My gaff my rules
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Noodle
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| posted on 9/10/03 at 08:39 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by steve m
6500 rpm ??
to low for me
8000, on a xflow was good
for 5 seconds then "bang"
lots of smoke tho
Standard 1996 Nissan Primera 2.0eGT engine: 8600rpm and still rising. Practically indestructable. RWD gearbox from 200sx should fit. It will rev-high
all day without complaint.
Neil.
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accident
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| posted on 12/10/03 at 02:03 AM |
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ah but then you get into the nightmare that is 200sx clutches.
they are all crap
[Edited on 12/10/03 by accident]
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Noodle
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| posted on 12/10/03 at 08:08 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by accident
ah but then you get into the nightmare that is 200sx clutches.
they are all crap
[Edited on 12/10/03 by accident]
Interesting. Care to elaborate?
Cheers,
Neil.
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accident
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| posted on 13/10/03 at 10:25 PM |
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current winter car is an s14 200sx.
now its a cheap rwd car with all the toys.
and as long as you throw away the standard exhaust(standard tube is the worst exhaust ever) its a fun car.
needed a clutch so i bought the cheapest.
it slipped at tickover.this is at 200 bhp maybey a little more but not much)
so i fitted a LUK clutch(still in the cheap and nasties) and that only slips if i hit the power hard.this is with crap rear tyres not slicks.
now i could change to a paddle clutch 300 quid plus and lose drivability(this is after all my comfy car not my fun blade locost)
ive run sierra's at double this power on standard plates ad they slip less.
im in the process of having a flywheel machined to take a modified ford cover(and lose some of the massive wieght)will give heavyer pedal but
hopefully no slip
[Edited on 14/10/03 by accident]
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