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Furyblade_Lee

posted on 21/3/13 at 10:43 PM Reply With Quote
Phoenix full cage

Hi guys, has anyone got any pics of a Phoenix with a full cage? Need some design inspiration ( having one made ) , now I have just hit 40 some self preservation is finally kicking in....
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adithorp

posted on 21/3/13 at 10:57 PM Reply With Quote
Couple of pictures of Matts car...









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SPYDER

posted on 22/3/13 at 12:28 AM Reply With Quote
Here are some pics of our design...
















Padding is the proper FIA spec stuff. Infills and sunscreen are carbon. In hindsight, the front needs to be a little lower.

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jeffw

posted on 22/3/13 at 06:15 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
Couple of pictures of Matts car...






And Dan's car as well in the top shot Both STM Phoenix






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snakebelly

posted on 22/3/13 at 09:43 AM Reply With Quote
Not a fury but similar is our Tiger GTA which we had Matt at Procomp do the cage for, lots of pictures here:

https://picasaweb.google.com/111529572187631903852/GTACage#

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matt_gsxr

posted on 22/3/13 at 09:59 AM Reply With Quote
I have an archive of phoenix photos at

https://plus.google.com/photos/104671818065472880232/albums/5494077681140815841

A few cages in there. Mostly STM ones like mine, but a few others.

Personally I am in two minds about my cage.
It is definitely a good thing for safety, but it does look like someone has dumped a child's climbing frame on what would have looked like a pretty car.

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snakebelly

posted on 22/3/13 at 10:08 AM Reply With Quote
that was what we liked most about Procomps design for us, it seemed to suite the car without looking like it had been dropped on top of the body
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adithorp

posted on 22/3/13 at 10:25 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jeffw
And Dan's car as well in the top shot Both STM Phoenix


Ah, couldn't remember his name.

I have to agree with Matt, a full cage does spoil the lines.

[Edited on 22/3/13 by adithorp]





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jeffw

posted on 22/3/13 at 10:40 AM Reply With Quote
Also they don't seem to have the side impact bars I would like to see.






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minitici

posted on 22/3/13 at 11:30 AM Reply With Quote








One I made for a Fury

[Edited on 22/3/13 by minitici]

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Furyblade_Lee

posted on 22/3/13 at 11:52 AM Reply With Quote
Cheers guys, got some inspiration there! Like parts of several, but none exactly! Think I know what I want now. I actually do have some side impact bars for mine, bolt in but never fitted them, will do soon.
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matt_gsxr

posted on 22/3/13 at 12:35 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jeffw
Also they don't seem to have the side impact bars I would like to see.


STM provided a separate side impact bar for the drivers side with mine.

If I were racing then I'd (carefully) fill the side pod with expanding foam which I think would be more effective.

Not sure it would meet the regulations though.

Matt

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beaver34

posted on 23/3/13 at 06:49 AM Reply With Quote
they look nice,

what do you use to fill the cage void in the middle and how is it attatched?

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Furyblade_Lee

posted on 23/3/13 at 10:35 AM Reply With Quote
The cage on the Red Fury looks nice, but i'd like the front hoop more curved and slightly lower than the back. Also I fancy two semi-circle top hoops a-la the Caterham cages otherwise access will be tricky. Does not have to pass circuit racing regs at the mo so that should be adequate pour moi.
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SPYDER

posted on 23/3/13 at 04:55 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by beaver34
they look nice,

what do you use to fill the cage void in the middle and how is it attatched?


Infill panels are thin carbon sheet fitted to small tabs on the cage with flanged button head screws.

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minitici

posted on 24/3/13 at 08:24 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Furyblade_Lee
The cage on the Red Fury looks nice, but i'd like the front hoop more curved and slightly lower than the back. Also I fancy two semi-circle top hoops a-la the Caterham cages otherwise access will be tricky. Does not have to pass circuit racing regs at the mo so that should be adequate pour moi.


The cage in the red Fury replicated the cage in the original chassis which came to grief at the Doune Hillclimb.

The hoops stood up very well to a roll and slide upside down for about 50 metres.

On the replacement, we went for an even larger diameter main hoop and diagonal (50mm) so that the car would be eligible for any class (i.e. Sports Libre as well as modified sports).






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Heather

posted on 28/3/13 at 01:43 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jeffw
quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
Couple of pictures of Matts car...






And Dan's car as well in the top shot Both STM Phoenix


Whoohoo nice to see the old girl again

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matt_gsxr

posted on 25/5/13 at 03:42 PM Reply With Quote
I got bored of the full cage, so trimmed the front off so just have a braced bar now.

Prettier and saves 12kg.

cage_chop
cage_chop


[Edited on 25/5/13 by matt_gsxr]

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