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Hopley89 - 16/12/13 at 10:32 AM

morning all
im looking on getting the sheeting for the floor of my haynes today ..
is it best steel or aluminum
if aluminum whats the best thickness to use ?? and is it best to be bonded and riverted to the floor


loggyboy - 16/12/13 at 10:54 AM

1.5mm aluminium is the norm, some suggest thicker for some protection from anything coming through the floor (not required IMO).
Rivet and bond, rivet for strength, bond for additional strength and waterproofing.


Hopley89 - 16/12/13 at 12:29 PM

cheers mate iv just gone and seen my mate and iv got 2mm ally forn the floor and 1.2mm for the rest of the ally bits
chhers dan


Slimy38 - 16/12/13 at 01:27 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Hopley89
cheers mate iv just gone and seen my mate and iv got 2mm ally forn the floor and 1.2mm for the rest of the ally bits
chhers dan


don't suppose he's got any spare for a decent price?


Hopley89 - 16/12/13 at 02:07 PM

what 2mm or 1.2 mm
he owns a aluminum fabrication company
dan


Slimy38 - 16/12/13 at 02:18 PM

A price for both would be good, I think the best I've found so far was £40 for an 8x4 sheet?


Hopley89 - 16/12/13 at 02:52 PM

ok sound ill ask him .. and get back to you
thatrs isnt bad tho £40 a sheet


Hopley89 - 16/12/13 at 02:52 PM

ok sound ill ask him .. and get back to you
thatrs isnt bad tho £40 a sheet


eddie99 - 16/12/13 at 03:23 PM

2mm Ally T6 is what we use, but 2mm Ally standard is certainly adequate.


edthedrummer - 16/12/13 at 11:40 PM

Eddie, can you explain the advantages of T6 over normal?


eddie99 - 17/12/13 at 11:16 AM

Hi Ed,

T6 Ally is much stronger, Therefore when you hit a kerb/speedbump, or accidentally jack on the wrong place of the floor, It holds up much better. Due to the strength it also doesn't need as much support. Gives excellent plane stiffness.

Through experience, just due to general usage, particularly on a race car, where i've fitted standard ally, it looks worn out with crinkles and cracks etc.. And i've felt like i've wanted to replace it regularly.

Whereas T6 will last much longer looking much better. In theory being stronger, it should also help stiffen the chassis up, however whether this is required is another debate.

Downside is T6 is more expensive.


[Edited on 17/12/13 by eddie99]


iank - 17/12/13 at 11:58 AM

More technical information that you'll ever need on the different aluminium grades
http://www.aalco.co.uk/datasheets/?gId=1


edthedrummer - 17/12/13 at 10:49 PM

quote:
Originally posted by eddie99
Hi Ed,

T6 Ally is much stronger, Therefore when you hit a kerb/speedbump, or accidentally jack on the wrong place of the floor, It holds up much better. Due to the strength it also doesn't need as much support. Gives excellent plane stiffness.

Through experience, just due to general usage, particularly on a race car, where i've fitted standard ally, it looks worn out with crinkles and cracks etc.. And i've felt like i've wanted to replace it regularly.

Whereas T6 will last much longer looking much better. In theory being stronger, it should also help stiffen the chassis up, however whether this is required is another debate.

Downside is T6 is more expensive.


[Edited on 17/12/13 by eddie99]


Thanks for the helpful informative reply! As my locost is still in the build stage I think a sheet of T6 ought to find its way underneath!


Hopley89 - 17/12/13 at 11:38 PM

We're did you get the t6 from !? And how much was it ... As it sounds a good idea ,Evan tho I've already got the aluminium


phelpsa - 18/12/13 at 11:09 AM

quote:
Originally posted by eddie99
Hi Ed,

T6 Ally is much stronger, Therefore when you hit a kerb/speedbump, or accidentally jack on the wrong place of the floor, It holds up much better. Due to the strength it also doesn't need as much support. Gives excellent plane stiffness.

Through experience, just due to general usage, particularly on a race car, where i've fitted standard ally, it looks worn out with crinkles and cracks etc.. And i've felt like i've wanted to replace it regularly.

Whereas T6 will last much longer looking much better. In theory being stronger, it should also help stiffen the chassis up, however whether this is required is another debate.

Downside is T6 is more expensive.


[Edited on 17/12/13 by eddie99]


Eddie, I presume you're talking about 6082-T6? The fact that it's 6082-T6 won't stiffen the chassis at all (pretty much all aluminium alloys have the same stiffness), however it should offer a bit more impact resistance than lesser grades.

We get it from Durbin Metals.

http://www.durbinmetals.co.uk/


edthedrummer - 18/12/13 at 05:34 PM

quote:
Originally posted by phelpsa
quote:
Originally posted by eddie99
Hi Ed,

T6 Ally is much stronger, Therefore when you hit a kerb/speedbump, or accidentally jack on the wrong place of the floor, It holds up much better. Due to the strength it also doesn't need as much support. Gives excellent plane stiffness.

Through experience, just due to general usage, particularly on a race car, where i've fitted standard ally, it looks worn out with crinkles and cracks etc.. And i've felt like i've wanted to replace it regularly.

Whereas T6 will last much longer looking much better. In theory being stronger, it should also help stiffen the chassis up, however whether this is required is another debate.

Downside is T6 is more expensive.


[Edited on 17/12/13 by eddie99]


Eddie, I presume you're talking about 6082-T6? The fact that it's 6082-T6 won't stiffen the chassis at all (pretty much all aluminium alloys have the same stiffness), however it should offer a bit more impact resistance than lesser grades.

We get it from Durbin Metals.

http://www.durbinmetals.co.uk/


I was about to ask this question! From the little amount of research I have done, T6 refers to the heat treatment process of the alloy and not necessarily the grade? I may be getting confused mind! But researching the properties of T6 metal there is a wide choice available with regards to numbers like 6082 and 6081 etc.


eddie99 - 18/12/13 at 07:08 PM

My Bad, i thought it had a slightly higher stiffness value. Any aluminium stockholder type place should be able to get it, otherwise I'm sure you can find it online.