[Edited on 19/05/04 by PAUL FISHER]
Oops somehow deleted the initial post by accident.
The other day was in a mates car leaning forward when he braked hard from about 80ish. Morning after i had a killing pain in my neck and shoulder. Im
having to take 2-4 pain killers to even get up out of bed and quite a few through the day to stop the pain. Am i being a right nancy boy or should the
pain be this bad?
[Edited on 14/11/08 by bassett]
Trapped nerve?
I'd go to see a Doctor who will probably pull your head around for a while, and then give you some pain killers and call you a Nancy Boy.
Yeah ive seen the doctor he played with my head then told me just to take the painkillers i been taking and the max amounts i can take a day.
I know he's a mate,but were there's blame,there's a claim,so milk it for all you can get,take him to court
[Edited on 19/05/04 by PAUL FISHER]
Still suffer from my accident last November. Standstill in M3, the car behind me decided not to stop and crashed on my car doing about 70+ mph. I was fine atm but next day, i couldn't even get off the bed without actually grabbing my head from my hair to lift it off the pillow.
Yes- whiplash is very painful.
those muscles are quite busy holding your held in place and if you knacker them up you sure know about it for a while.
You might just need some stronger painkillers from your GP. It's important to take something strong enough so that you can begin to start moving
your neck again otherwise it's going to seize up...
quote:
Originally posted by PAUL FISHER
I know he's a mate,but were there's blame,there's a claim,so milk it for all you can get,take him to court
[Edited on 19/05/04 by PAUL FISHER]
Double up with Ibroprofen and paracetamol. Should help.
My necks not the same since I crashed. Go back to your GP - you may get Physio on the NHS if needed.
The annoying thing is it wasnt even a crash he was just doing a brake test but hadnt said anything and leaning forward i already had taken all the
tension of the belt up so all the pressure was on my neck. I had been rear ended in my Fiesta back in the day at around 30mph by a huge Merc but didnt
feel half as bad as this.
Yeah i am doubling up, apparently i can have 8 paracetemol and 6 ibroprofen but at halfway through the day i have had loads already. I think the
stretches the doctor asked me to do today has up set the muscles as yesterday i was ok for the main part of the day i didnt really notice it and was
walking around quite a lot but today ive had more painkillers and feel like i cant move from the couch.
I have quite a few issues with my neck after various motorbike accidents. Keep doing the exercises you were told to!
If you lock up, and dont do them then you will end up with a bad shoulder, neck arm, back etc. staying stiff and rigid to avoid a bit of pain now is a
BAD idea.
Hurts like buggery doing them, but worth it in the long run. No one told me that, and I wimped out - I still have to go to a sports injury clinic (at
£35 a pop!) a few times a month to be beaten up by Helger and her elbows.
It is a potentially serious injury. Get it looked at properly, and don't go for quacks moving it around! It takes days to show up sometimes. Make
notes.
Premiums rising have NOTHING to do with claims. They are businesses and will raise rates whenever they are allowed to. See "executive salaries
and failing banks" to get the picture. Same attitude.
Im afraid it will hurt a lot for a while. I had an accident on 6th October and still in a lot of discomfort. Hospital said take paracetamol and ibruprofen. Doctor then prescribed stronger anti-inflammatories that didnt agree with me, 2nd Doctor prescribed Tramadol, which after some unfounded initial concern have proven to be good. Ive also had 4 physiotherapy treatments too. As said it will take time and do the exercises. Physio told me to expect up to 2 to 3 months before it all settles until it doesnt cause issues anymore then several months to recover completely.
Re: Making a claim - essentially this is impossible as there wasn't actually an accident. There was in the past a case that was treated as a
test case for the insurance industry where a car passenger tried to claim whiplash in the exact same circumstances. Obviously the insurance industry
"took note" mainly because it could potentially destroy the industry and other passenger related businesses if a claim were allowed to
succeed.
A successful claim could potentially set a precedent where you would have to sign a disclaimer before getting a taxi or bus.
The case eventually failed as no negligence could be attributed to the driver.
Chiropractor works every time for me (crocked my back, neck & knees up taking up trials riding when I should have been taking up gardening or
similar...).
Not cheap but unlike physios they are dealing with backs & necks all the time. Get a good one and they are worth their weight....
I'd wait a couple of days to see if the swelling goes down. Try ice-packs (bag of frozen peas in a cloth) but don't keep it on there too
long or you'll freeze the skin. There's a product called Bio-freeze (Boots and some supermarkets like Waitrose) which works well.
Don't leave it to your GP, he can refer you to a Chiro either on NHS or private.
ATB, Pewe 
As a lurking lawyer I have to disagree with the idea that there is no claim here. On the other hand I am as anti claims culture as the next person and wouldn't dream of grassing up my mate. If a driver conducts an illeagal 80mph brake test on a public road without warning his passengers he is unarguably negligent. It is negligence causing injury that matters not "an accident". Oddly enough for a proper "accident" there can be no claim as nobody is to blame.
Lets leave the claims business for americans. My injury is probably not just down to braking hard as we were on the way to a race at rye house(part of
a kart team) and as i felt fine i still raced which probably made the following pain worse. So im just on about the pain and it sounds like pain can
vary, i guess i was just unlucky, need to take things easy but exercise the muscles.
[Edited on 14/11/08 by bassett]
Ive been finding the exercises hard going which makes the pain killers all the more important. It was explained to me that when joints are injured the
muscles around them tighten up to protect them. This however impedes bllod flow to the injury site. By taking pain killers and anti inflmmotories the
muscles can relax, allowing the blood to flow and you to do the exercises that will help the joints recover.
If paracetamol isnt working terribly well its worth seeking something stronger.
quote:
Originally posted by Theshed
As a lurking lawyer I have to disagree with the idea that there is no claim here. On the other hand I am as anti claims culture as the next person and wouldn't dream of grassing up my mate. If a driver conducts an illeagal 80mph brake test on a public road without warning his passengers he is unarguably negligent. It is negligence causing injury that matters not "an accident". Oddly enough for a proper "accident" there can be no claim as nobody is to blame.
I was only joking about taking him to court,hence my post finished with a you would not have many mates if you took court action against them
[Edited on 19/05/04 by PAUL FISHER]
I think cocodamol is about the strongest stuff you can get in your chemist. Had it when i have a tooth ache and it was quite good stuff.
hope you feel better soon
Friend had knee surgery and the phsyio she went to was, quite franky, poo.
Surgeon was horrified when he saw he after a few weeks as her knee had completely frozen up. She did lots of sports and ended up in tears when he
explained to her the situation and how bad it could end up if she didn't act now. What followed was a couple of months intensive and painful
physio (with a good phsyio on personal recommendation from the surgeon) and some 'good' pain killers.
She's now ok ....... but it proved to me that a) a good physio and b) doing the exercises are vital.
quote:
Originally posted by PAUL FISHER
I was only joking about taking him to court,hence my post finished with a
[Edited on 19/05/04 by PAUL FISHER]
buy a tens machine best money I've ever spent and its not drug's
link
link
Hi,
As someone else said, Tramadol is great for relieving muscles which are in spasm (which is quite possibly what you have). You can only get them on
prescription so you'll need to see your doctor. They are opioid based and mildly narcotic so take care and seriously don't drive or operate
machinery after taking them!!
I find they leave me feeling a bit spaced out for an hour or two and then very sleepy but they are a godsend if you have muscle spasms in the neck
region. I had quite distressing neck pain a few months ago where I couldn't sit, stand or lie down without pain and it was driving me nuts. I in
turn was driving my wife nuts who sent me off to GP on call. He palpated my neck muscles and said they were "ropey" and then gave me
tramadol.
The other thing I would recommend assuming that someone medically qualified has ruled out any serious injuries, is to try neck massage. You can do
this yourself by lying on a carpet with a rolled up hand towel under your head. Try lying there and push your head into the towel firmly for 10-15
seconds and then relax. Now use your fingers to massage the muscles at the back of your neck. Repeat the two steps a few times and see how it feels.
If it feels worse then obviously stop - hopefully it will help though.
In my opinion paracetamol and ibuprofen won't do sh1t for this sort of thing so either get some tramadol or get some physio/chiro.
Good luck!
Craig.
Remember, nobody sues for the fun of it. It is for regaining lost revenues due to missed work and pain and suffering. It's not supposed to be for that extra case of beer every week for a year.
the only good thing about the claim culture is it does make people more careful, certainly at work i take care to avoid creating hazards.
One thing everyone has overlooked is that he went karting straight after !
If anything is super hard on the neck and shoulder muscles then karting is.
If you've not been karting then try it, but be prepared for an aching day next day !
I think you certainly aggravated a neck injury by karting.
Karting is probably more to do with the neck injury than the braking. The extra weight of the helmet probably set you off.
I would suggest massage. As in professionally trained massage, not the "happy ending" kind. What they will do is feel around until they
find the tight muscles, then push hard on them. Hurts like hell but it's the only way to loosen them up. You can do this yourself once you know
what you are looking for, but I would try a few proffessional visits first.
Also watch your posture, if your shoulders are slouched forward it will load up the muscles in the back of your neck.
Good Luck.
Cory