Norfolkluegojnr
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| posted on 15/7/11 at 03:38 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by procomp
However it is fair to say that the RAW is way ahead of the likes off MK - MAC1 - MNR but is still left in the shade by Westfield and Caterham. And it
is also fair to say that or rather ask How many have actually driven and know how good or bad the GBS actually is ?.
Just a slightly more balanced view.
Cheers Matt
Don't think any of us commented in a good or bad way on the Zero. I'm sure its perfectly good. I just gave my opinion on what i could,
which I thought is what the OP wanted?
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gazza1591
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| posted on 15/7/11 at 03:53 PM |
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i had a chat to the people at raw today seem nice over the phone if off to have a look around next week.
one thing i do like is the factory is only 20 mins from mine so will able to get parts/advise etc very easy ?
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scootz
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| posted on 15/7/11 at 05:08 PM |
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What made you come down to those two particular choices?
It's Evolution Baby!
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gazza1591
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| posted on 15/7/11 at 05:29 PM |
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both i beleave i can build for under 10k, they both look very similar i think ? and both have good reports from what i have seen.
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 15/7/11 at 06:03 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by gazza1591
one thing i do like is the factory is only 20 mins from mine so will able to get parts/advise etc very easy ?
That is a major bonus - you would not believe how much that can make your life easier.
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TimC
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| posted on 15/7/11 at 07:28 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
... and add 50%for a westie when compared to similar spec Striker.
I'm honestly not sure about that. At least with Mel, a Striker could get very expensive!
That said, I think the Striker is a very good car.
[Edited on 15/7/11 by TimC]
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Dopdog
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| posted on 15/7/11 at 08:58 PM |
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Nice to see all the comments, i think the most important one has been said, it may not be a caterham or westfield but for your money i personally
think its the best car for your money. I have put many a more expensive 7 type car to shame with mine 
Striker all the way make yourself get in i say. 
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gazza1591
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| posted on 16/7/11 at 11:52 AM |
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again thanks for all the replys i am going more towards the stricker the more info i find about it the better it sounds.
wish i could join the owners club i have registered 2 days ago and still not been activated :-(
anyone building a stricker at the moment ? and if you are do you have a build diary i could take a look at ?
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Litemoth
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| posted on 16/7/11 at 12:10 PM |
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Just to add...
I'm 6'2" and have no trouble with the fit in my Striker
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gazza1591
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| posted on 16/7/11 at 01:28 PM |
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dont suppose anyone knows where i can find the dimensions of the striker ?
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Raw
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| posted on 20/7/11 at 03:01 PM |
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quote:
The RGB RAW cars that where run did not have a chassis that is available from RAW as they where highly modified by Tim Grey. And the RAW Fulcrum that
was run by Garry Goodyear was a virtual home built chassis. The only strikers from RAW that have seen competition use IE the class within the 750Mc
for the car as a one make class never took off due to every one who has driven the car moaning about how bad it handles. !!!
( Matt - "procomp" )
Just an FYI heads up.
As the manufacturer of the Striker chassis that Gary Goodyear used in his championship winning Fulcrum i can categorically state that it was a
standard factory lowered chassis. I agree that Tim Grays chassis was indeed tinkered with after which time his results unfortunately became less
competitive.
Standard lowered chassis were also used by Andy Charsley, Steven Ward, Mark Conroy, Guy Hussey and Gary Goodyear in his original class A winning car.
Check out their results online.
So i think the statement quoted above somewhat misleading.
The one make series was introduced by the previous owners of Raw to try and provide a budget race series. The car was a standard road chassis, with a
standard zetec engine and standard springs, shocks etc. This was so that the series could be a level playing field for all competitors as with the
very successful Irish Stryker race series. As the uptake was not high for the race series, the factory car was hired to various drivers, who regularly
qualified and finished in the top half of the grid of the 750 motor club kit car race series. There was no testing or driving time prior to the races
the car entered. considering it was based on the road car we think it did quite well. We still have the car and it seems to pass many more on the
circuit than your description makes out!
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TimC
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| posted on 20/7/11 at 03:36 PM |
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Originally posted by Raw
I agree that Tim Grays chassis was indeed tinkered with after which time his results unfortunately became less competitive.
This isn't my fight, but that is a ridiculous, laughable statement. If I may draw your attention to the 2008 and 2009 RGB Championship Tables,
I think you'll find that they speak for themselves.
2008
2009
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alfas
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| posted on 23/7/11 at 01:20 PM |
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some background info about the Zero:
the company offering the zero was RobinHood in the past. so everything should be clear now?
anyway. the zero, other than the robin´s, are comming with a spaceframe chassis and a typical sevenesque suspension design, which is a big upgrade.
but ask yourselves why the kit is so cheap?
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Yazza54
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| posted on 23/7/11 at 01:34 PM |
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New gbs cars look nicely made but I wouldn't class them as on a Par with a striker.
Then again I've seen some right shitters from all makes, a big part of it is the builder
I'm unhappy cos I eat and I eat cos I'm unhappy
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femster87
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| posted on 23/7/11 at 03:17 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by alfas
some background info about the Zero:
the company offering the zero was RobinHood in the past. so everything should be clear now?
anyway. the zero, other than the robin´s, are comming with a spaceframe chassis and a typical sevenesque suspension design, which is a big upgrade.
but ask yourselves why the kit is so cheap?
There is nothing wrong with the kit, am building one and it has been great fun. If you are worried about how well the cars perform, they would be
racing at brands tomorow, few Zeros running.
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Dopdog
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| posted on 23/7/11 at 03:30 PM |
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there is only one option left for you.
Buy my car and never look back
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franky
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| posted on 23/7/11 at 03:31 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Dopdog
there is only one option left for you.
Buy my car and never look back
Your car does look awesome
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Stott
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| posted on 23/7/11 at 04:49 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Litemoth
Just to add...
I'm 6'2" and have no trouble with the fit in my Striker
That's because you havent sat in it for years!
Sorry couldn't resist........
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alfas
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| posted on 23/7/11 at 07:12 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by femster87
quote:
Originally posted by alfas
some background info about the Zero:
the company offering the zero was RobinHood in the past. so everything should be clear now?
anyway. the zero, other than the robin´s, are comming with a spaceframe chassis and a typical sevenesque suspension design, which is a big upgrade.
but ask yourselves why the kit is so cheap?
There is nothing wrong with the kit, am building one and it has been great fun. If you are worried about how well the cars perform, they would be
racing at brands tomorow, few Zeros running.
i´m sure robinhood made a big step in their development of the zero, but this has to be proved in the next years. (i always wonderded why they did
produce those "strange" stainless monocoques in the past...nobody else has done that.)
even a zero might perform well on the track, this doesnt mean automatically that the kit is made of high quality:
road use, with mud, spray, salt, water will show how good the quality of the chassis and the parts in the kit is. (also i dont want to say that the
powdercoating used by sylva was good in end 80ies beginning 90ies)...bit those times with their problems should have passed?
i personally dont know how "good " or "easy" the actual zero-kit is for a builder achieving a quality result,
but i must say (from my expirience): e.g.: westfield fisher or sylva kits have a very good basics, where even a less skilled builder will achieve a
good result. the robin kits had been cheap, the buyers had been "cheap", the quality was "cheap" and it needed a lot of
skills and a good workshop to get a good result finally. thats why most robins are so, so!
the zero i a differnt matter...but as i already said: it must show its"real" quality in the next years.
[Edited on 23/7/11 by alfas]
[Edited on 23/7/11 by alfas]
[Edited on 23/7/11 by alfas]
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gazza1591
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| posted on 23/7/11 at 07:24 PM |
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thanks for all the replys.
well today iwent to visit raw i went out in the stiker it went really well and seemed to handle good.
but it was a bit tight to get in and not a lot of room to move, i dont think it would be very good after an hour or so.
so im going to visit GBS to view the zero next week.
was also looking at tiger r6/r10 anyone have any experience with these ?
thanks
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alfas
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| posted on 23/7/11 at 07:43 PM |
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if its your first kitcar or even your first seven, you might feel a bit uncomfortable or tight in such a car.
but keep in mind: those cars are supposed to be driven sportive, so a snug fit will help you to "feel" the car, its behaviour and the
road.
snug fit does not mean "squeezed", but you should feel well "enclosed".
in mass production cars people are fitting bucket seats....but some kitcars "include" that bucket-feeling in their construction.
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 23/7/11 at 07:49 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by alfas
i´m sure robinhood made a big step in their development of the zero, but this has to be proved in the next years. (i always wonderded why they did
produce those "strange" stainless monocoques in the past...nobody else has done that.)
Quantum did it too. I believe they are comparatively heavy compared to a typical spaceframe se7en
http://www.quantumcars.co.uk/showroom/xtreme/gallery/
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gazza1591
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| posted on 24/7/11 at 06:03 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by alfas
if its your first kitcar or even your first seven, you might feel a bit uncomfortable or tight in such a car.
but keep in mind: those cars are supposed to be driven sportive, so a snug fit will help you to "feel" the car, its behaviour and the
road.
snug fit does not mean "squeezed", but you should feel well "enclosed".
in mass production cars people are fitting bucket seats....but some kitcars "include" that bucket-feeling in their construction.
thanks for the reply i had a call today from raw and they have invited me back as the have a different seat set up which they said would suit me more
and should give me more room, so im off there next week for a second trial
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Litemoth
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| posted on 3/8/11 at 11:27 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Stott
quote:
Originally posted by Litemoth
Just to add...
I'm 6'2" and have no trouble with the fit in my Striker
That's because you havent sat in it for years!
Sorry couldn't resist........
I've just noticed your comment......Ooooh you cow!!
OK, from memory, the length is fine....the width may be more of an issue nowadays
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Hammy360
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zero
Nearly finished my zero and the build has been great. IMHO the zero is one of the closest to look like the real thing. that said thrre are loads of
good seven kits and if i was starting my build now id be looking at a beemer donor like the Gkd
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