Hopley89
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| posted on 16/12/13 at 10:32 AM |
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floor materials
morning all
im looking on getting the sheeting for the floor of my haynes today ..
is it best steel or aluminum
if aluminum whats the best thickness to use ?? and is it best to be bonded and riverted to the floor
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loggyboy
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| posted on 16/12/13 at 10:54 AM |
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1.5mm aluminium is the norm, some suggest thicker for some protection from anything coming through the floor (not required IMO).
Rivet and bond, rivet for strength, bond for additional strength and waterproofing.
Mistral Motorsport
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Hopley89
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| posted on 16/12/13 at 12:29 PM |
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cheers mate iv just gone and seen my mate and iv got 2mm ally forn the floor and 1.2mm for the rest of the ally bits
chhers dan
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Slimy38
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| posted on 16/12/13 at 01:27 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Hopley89
cheers mate iv just gone and seen my mate and iv got 2mm ally forn the floor and 1.2mm for the rest of the ally bits
chhers dan
don't suppose he's got any spare for a decent price? 
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Hopley89
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| posted on 16/12/13 at 02:07 PM |
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what 2mm or 1.2 mm
he owns a aluminum fabrication company
dan
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Slimy38
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| posted on 16/12/13 at 02:18 PM |
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A price for both would be good, I think the best I've found so far was £40 for an 8x4 sheet?
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Hopley89
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| posted on 16/12/13 at 02:52 PM |
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ok sound ill ask him .. and get back to you
thatrs isnt bad tho £40 a sheet
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Hopley89
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| posted on 16/12/13 at 02:52 PM |
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ok sound ill ask him .. and get back to you
thatrs isnt bad tho £40 a sheet
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eddie99
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| posted on 16/12/13 at 03:23 PM |
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2mm Ally T6 is what we use, but 2mm Ally standard is certainly adequate.
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edthedrummer
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| posted on 16/12/13 at 11:40 PM |
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Eddie, can you explain the advantages of T6 over normal?
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eddie99
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| posted on 17/12/13 at 11:16 AM |
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Hi Ed,
T6 Ally is much stronger, Therefore when you hit a kerb/speedbump, or accidentally jack on the wrong place of the floor, It holds up much better. Due
to the strength it also doesn't need as much support. Gives excellent plane stiffness.
Through experience, just due to general usage, particularly on a race car, where i've fitted standard ally, it looks worn out with crinkles and
cracks etc.. And i've felt like i've wanted to replace it regularly.
Whereas T6 will last much longer looking much better. In theory being stronger, it should also help stiffen the chassis up, however whether this is
required is another debate.
Downside is T6 is more expensive.
[Edited on 17/12/13 by eddie99]
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iank
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| posted on 17/12/13 at 11:58 AM |
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More technical information that you'll ever need on the different aluminium grades
http://www.aalco.co.uk/datasheets/?gId=1
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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edthedrummer
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| posted on 17/12/13 at 10:49 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by eddie99
Hi Ed,
T6 Ally is much stronger, Therefore when you hit a kerb/speedbump, or accidentally jack on the wrong place of the floor, It holds up much better. Due
to the strength it also doesn't need as much support. Gives excellent plane stiffness.
Through experience, just due to general usage, particularly on a race car, where i've fitted standard ally, it looks worn out with crinkles and
cracks etc.. And i've felt like i've wanted to replace it regularly.
Whereas T6 will last much longer looking much better. In theory being stronger, it should also help stiffen the chassis up, however whether this is
required is another debate.
Downside is T6 is more expensive.
[Edited on 17/12/13 by eddie99]
Thanks for the helpful informative reply! As my locost is still in the build stage I think a sheet of T6 ought to find its way underneath!
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Hopley89
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| posted on 17/12/13 at 11:38 PM |
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We're did you get the t6 from !? And how much was it ... As it sounds a good idea ,Evan tho I've already got the aluminium
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phelpsa
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| posted on 18/12/13 at 11:09 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by eddie99
Hi Ed,
T6 Ally is much stronger, Therefore when you hit a kerb/speedbump, or accidentally jack on the wrong place of the floor, It holds up much better. Due
to the strength it also doesn't need as much support. Gives excellent plane stiffness.
Through experience, just due to general usage, particularly on a race car, where i've fitted standard ally, it looks worn out with crinkles and
cracks etc.. And i've felt like i've wanted to replace it regularly.
Whereas T6 will last much longer looking much better. In theory being stronger, it should also help stiffen the chassis up, however whether this is
required is another debate.
Downside is T6 is more expensive.
[Edited on 17/12/13 by eddie99]
Eddie, I presume you're talking about 6082-T6? The fact that it's 6082-T6 won't stiffen the chassis at all (pretty much all
aluminium alloys have the same stiffness), however it should offer a bit more impact resistance than lesser grades.
We get it from Durbin Metals.
http://www.durbinmetals.co.uk/
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edthedrummer
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| posted on 18/12/13 at 05:34 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by phelpsa
quote:
Originally posted by eddie99
Hi Ed,
T6 Ally is much stronger, Therefore when you hit a kerb/speedbump, or accidentally jack on the wrong place of the floor, It holds up much better. Due
to the strength it also doesn't need as much support. Gives excellent plane stiffness.
Through experience, just due to general usage, particularly on a race car, where i've fitted standard ally, it looks worn out with crinkles and
cracks etc.. And i've felt like i've wanted to replace it regularly.
Whereas T6 will last much longer looking much better. In theory being stronger, it should also help stiffen the chassis up, however whether this is
required is another debate.
Downside is T6 is more expensive.
[Edited on 17/12/13 by eddie99]
Eddie, I presume you're talking about 6082-T6? The fact that it's 6082-T6 won't stiffen the chassis at all (pretty much all
aluminium alloys have the same stiffness), however it should offer a bit more impact resistance than lesser grades.
We get it from Durbin Metals.
http://www.durbinmetals.co.uk/
I was about to ask this question! From the little amount of research I have done, T6 refers to the heat treatment process of the alloy and not
necessarily the grade? I may be getting confused mind! But researching the properties of T6 metal there is a wide choice available with regards to
numbers like 6082 and 6081 etc.
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eddie99
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| posted on 18/12/13 at 07:08 PM |
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My Bad, i thought it had a slightly higher stiffness value. Any aluminium stockholder type place should be able to get it, otherwise I'm sure
you can find it online.
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