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jon_haggerty

posted on 13/10/05 at 01:56 PM Reply With Quote
chassis plans

asically i want to build a locost as per book but with IRS using sierra parts. Are there any downloadable chassis plans out there and where?
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James

posted on 13/10/05 at 02:02 PM Reply With Quote
Please do a search on this- it's been asked and answered a few times before.

Cheers,
James





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jon_haggerty

posted on 13/10/05 at 02:11 PM Reply With Quote
Sorry
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James

posted on 13/10/05 at 02:18 PM Reply With Quote
You've made me feel guilty now!

Basically, there aren't really any plans.

A few people have come up with their own designs (Mix, and a few others) and then a lot (including several manufacturers I won't mention) just rip off MK's design.

Best advice to you is to use the DeDion system (with Sierra diff' ) from MK or GTS Tuning (see links above!) and bolt it to a standard book chassis. GTS supply plans to adapt the normal chassis to use their De Dion system.

It's what I'd have used if it'd been available when I started.

Hope that helps,
James

[Edited on 13/10/05 by James]





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jon_haggerty

posted on 13/10/05 at 02:21 PM Reply With Quote
I did try and look at the gts site but as you say its a de dion system. I was thinking just wishbones at the back and a sierra lsd diff in the niddle. And stick it all together on the back of a book chassis. Any ideas who does that? Sorry again, Jon
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James

posted on 13/10/05 at 02:25 PM Reply With Quote
IRS is only really a bonus if you've got it setup exactly right and know how to tune it.

The DeDion is an excellent compromise between IRS and Live Axle.

At the end of the day there are plenty of really excellent Locosts with Live Axle. As Steve Gusterson once said "I've never heard anyone say: My standard Locost doesn't handle well"!

Go DeDion and your life will be a lot simpler- I've done IRS so I should know!

Cheers,
James





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Russ-Turner

posted on 13/10/05 at 02:57 PM Reply With Quote
Came across this the other day.

http://www.georgecushing.net/SierraIRS.html






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caber

posted on 13/10/05 at 03:05 PM Reply With Quote
There is a book in the SpeedPro Series called "How to build your own Tiger Avon Sports Car" by Jim Dudley ISBN 1-903706-09-2. This has full drawings and build info for a sierra based 7 with double wishbone rear suspension. The main chassis is similar to the Locost though there is a bit more bracing on the sides, and different bracing arrangements elsewhere, probably a bit heavier but useful for ideas to mod the locostif you don't want to build this version.

Regards

Caber

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Bob C

posted on 13/10/05 at 03:06 PM Reply With Quote
A few of us have gone for a different donor for IRS, I used mx5 uprights which are available for reasonable cost. But I still used sierra diff. Downside with mx5 uprights is that the front track rod attatchment is all a bit unfortunate, but the back end is just the job.
Bob C

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mark chandler

posted on 13/10/05 at 03:40 PM Reply With Quote
I,m using this one as a guide

" target="_blank">http://locost7.info/files/chassis/Chassis_Sierra.pdf

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Gav

posted on 13/10/05 at 03:45 PM Reply With Quote
I started the same way, i evan bought the tiger book, however since its my first build i thought id go for a tried and tested method with the DeDion from GTS if i feel the need later i can easily adapt the chassis to use IRS now i understand how the chassis is put together.
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jon_haggerty

posted on 13/10/05 at 05:14 PM Reply With Quote
Cheers everyone. Like i say, i wanted to go the complete IRS route from the beginning even though this is my first build and im too stuck in my ways to change now. Thanks for all your input and patience.
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Avoneer

posted on 13/10/05 at 05:29 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by caber
There is a book in the SpeedPro Series called "How to build your own Tiger Avon Sports Car" by Jim Dudley ISBN 1-903706-09-2. This has full drawings and build info for a sierra based 7 with double wishbone rear suspension. The main chassis is similar to the Locost though there is a bit more bracing on the sides, and different bracing arrangements elsewhere, probably a bit heavier but useful for ideas to mod the locostif you don't want to build this version.

Regards

Caber




Yeah, but the geometrey is all wrong and from the seats back, there is no adequate triangulation.

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jon_haggerty

posted on 13/10/05 at 09:54 PM Reply With Quote
Has anyone tried the mcSorley method? I think thats what im going to try. Any pro's and con's?
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kb58

posted on 13/10/05 at 10:55 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by James
As Steve Gusterson once said "I've never heard anyone say: My standard Locost doesn't handle well"!


Even ignoring cornering, the smooth ride of IRS over real-world bumpy roads will make that same Locost much more pleasent to live with.

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